Ruining the classics (screenshot heavy thread)

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:15 pm

I've done a bit of investigating, i think it's caused by the way i've got the oxp set up - all the kraits reference 1 of 5 different templates, the subentities are only listed in the template version of the ship, i think this is causing the problem - if i copy the list of subentities from the template ship into each referenced ship they work ok, so i wonder if there's a problem with like_shiping a template with a lot of subentites as even the broken ships have about 3 subentites that rotate OK, (the first 3 or so in the list) the rest of them don't rotate, is this a bug in oolite or a bug in the confusing way i've written out the shipdata.plist?

Screet · Post by **Screet** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:20 pm

Griff wrote:
if i copy the list of subentities from the template ship into each referenced ship they work ok, so i wonder if there's a problem with like_shiping a template with a lot of subentites as even the broken ships have about 3 subentites that rotate OK, (the first 3 or so in the list) the rest of them don't rotate, is this a bug in oolite or a bug in the confusing way i've written out the shipdata.plist?

This sounds like a trunk build without the latest updates. The like_ship resolving was done later than the classification of subentities until shortly ago. That did cause the Caduceus turrets, which were using like_ship, to be disabled and even garble the side views...

Screet

Post by **Kaks** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:21 pm

Hmmm, it sounds reasonable to expect all the subentities to survive being like_shipped... stay tuned, we'll see what we can find!
Edit: as Screet just mentioned, yesterday's new code ( provided by Screet himself ) should have improved the subentites handling. Griff, do let us know if the problems are gone with the newest build!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:31 pm

I just updated to Oolite v1.73 - Apr 19 2009 and i'm still seeing the problem, the good news is though that i think it's a fault with my oxp and not oolite
it looks like the griff_krait_beamlaser_l & griff_krait_beamlaser_r subentites don't rotate with the parent ship and they also stop the rotation of any other subentites listed after them for some reason

the griff_krait_pulselaser_l & griff_krait_pulselaser_r subentites and the griff_krait_chrome_militarylaser_l & griff_krait_chrome_militarylaser_r are working fine though, rotating quite happily with the parent ship. I'll have a look into why the beam_laser variants are not working - it's a bit puzzling - they the same model & texture files as the other laser subentites so it must be something i've written in the config file

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:00 pm

Ah, i found out what was wrong, one of the beamlaser subentites had a setup_action initialise_turret in it for some reason, it must have been a copy and paste error i made when writing out the shipdata.plist. I've fixed the oxp and re-uploaded it to the same download link

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun May 03, 2009 10:59 pm

Normal Mapped 'Adder' remake

Because of all the normal mapping in the shaders, this oxp will only work properly with the build-it-yourself trunk version of Oolite (Oolite v1.73)

grab the ship here: http://www.box.net/shared/v3ghsifzlq (2.61 MB)
I've tested it and i think it works OK

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:03 pm

wow that looks really nice. you've captured the cheap and chunky look of the adder perfectly. I could tell what ship it was straight away.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:07 pm

i decided to make it like a cross between an armoured car and a transit van

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:10 pm

what's the poly count on it?

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:52 pm

Griff wrote:
Normal Mapped 'Adder' remake

Because of all the normal mapping in the shaders, this oxp will only work properly with the build-it-yourself trunk version of Oolite (Oolite v1.73)

grab the ship here: http://www.box.net/shared/v3ghsifzlq (2.61 MB)
I've tested it and i think it works OK

I love it! I really do! It's just so "functional" - exactly what the adder should be like!!!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon May 04, 2009 10:23 am

ramon wrote:
what's the poly count on it?

rather high:
439 Verts
694 Polygons
2 1024x1024 texture maps (Diffuse & normal)
1 512x512 texture map (effects map for all the lights & glows)
1 512x128 decal map (same as the griff_cobraIII - i should really make some new ones!)

Star Gazer · Post by **Star Gazer** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:51 am

Griff wrote:
i decided to make it like a cross between an armoured car and a transit van

...what a sublime choice! Excellent! That is a really nice model, I can't help but agree that it captures the Adder perfectly.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:16 pm

normal mapped 'Sidewinder'

A sidewinder scout ship redone in the same chunky style as the others, this oxp is for the Trunk version (v1.73) of Oolite and won't work properly with the current test version
http://www.box.net/shared/q9pk50dcv9 (about 2Mb)

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:22 pm

Diziet Sma · Post by **Diziet Sma** » Thu May 28, 2009 7:37 am

DaddyHoggy wrote:

Couldn't have put it better myself! DH, your eloquence knows no bounds!