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Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:01 pm
by Gimi
Commander McLane wrote:
Gimi wrote:
I meant clean. (I consider the fact that you can dock with slaves, narcotics and arms without receiving a bounty on your head a bug.)
My thought was that, essentially it is illegal to trade in Narcotics or Arms. I know you won't get a bounty on docking (without an oxp), but still.
Well, there you are. In your Ooniverse, your rules apply. However, the OXP should essentially work in other people's Ooniverses as well. And your personal rules are in this point contrary to the general Oolite rules, which deem the selling of narcotics and firearms (and slaves) not illegal.
Anyway, this is just a reminder that this general Oolite behaviour should be considered when designing the OXP.
Absolutely agree, and assumptions is the mother of all … ups. I'll try to avoid making any.
I still think that having a naval logistics ship drop only food, arms and medical supplies makes sense though.
Food - often/every time
Arms - sometimes
Medical supplies (narcotics) - rare.
Possibly machinery - rare.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:06 pm
by Disembodied
Gimi wrote:
Absolutely agree, and assumptions is the mother of all … ups. I'll try to avoid making any.
I still think that having a naval logistics ship drop only food, arms and medical supplies makes sense though.
Food - often/every time
Arms - sometimes
Medical supplies (narcotics) - rare.
Possibly machinery - rare.
I'd suggest:

Food - common
Arms - sometimes
Medical supplies (narcotics) - only from hospital/search and rescue ships (which would drop a mix of food, narcotics and alloys)
Machinery - rare
Alloys - sometimes
Radioactives - sometimes

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:15 pm
by Smivs
It shouldn't take long to do a white version...watch this space. BTW the 'Galactic Navy' capital ships are white :wink:

I found my original HIMSN crest. It's 1000x1000px, and I think is actually better than the one I ended up using on Thunder Child (I thought I'd lost this :roll: ). Click on the thumb for full-size.

Image

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 pm
by Cody
Smivs wrote:
BTW the 'Galactic Navy' capital ships are white
A good reason not to use white, then! But I'll quietly withdraw from the 'colours' debate... I like my Navy in metallic greys.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:20 pm
by Gimi
Smivs wrote:
It shouldn't take long to do a white version...watch this space. BTW the 'Galactic Navy' capital ships are white :wink:

I found my original HIMSN crest. It's 1000x1000px, and I think is actually better than the one I ended up using on Thunder Child (I thought I'd lost this :roll: ). Click on the thumb for full-size.
Thanks Smivs. Watching!

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:25 pm
by Smivs
OK, this has the fuselage in white (well very light grey), but I've left the 'wings' and 'bridge' darker for comparison.

Image

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:41 pm
by Disembodied
Smivs wrote:
OK, this has the fuselage in white (well very light grey), but I've left the 'wings' and 'bridge' darker for comparison.
It's a bit ... beige. If it's going to be grey, it should (I think) be blueish-grey – but I think it would be better brighter and whiter. The greebly panels I like, but would need more contrast (as in the darker wings and bridge). How about something like

http://www.color-hex.com/color/ebf5ff

as a base colour, with

and

http://www.color-hex.com/color/f5faff

and

http://www.color-hex.com/color/adbad1

for highlights and shadows?

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:46 pm
by Smivs
Disembodied wrote:
It's a bit ... beige.
Beige is good...it will bore your enemies to death :wink:

(I think that's a consequence of image compression etc. It looks white here.)

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:53 pm
by Cody
Smivs wrote:
It looks white here.
You sure you've got your colours adjusted right, Smivs... that is beige, and reminds me of old computers.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:57 pm
by Staer9
Smivs wrote:
OK, this has the fuselage in white (well very light grey), but I've left the 'wings' and 'bridge' darker for comparison.

Image
I can't help but think those thrusters look a bit bizzare... (probably because they were built for a different ship)

If you pm me the .dat (or even .obj if you have it) I can give it a bit of a touch-up.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:57 pm
by Gimi
That is light grey on my laptop screen, but very "old computery yellow/beige" on my external screen. Wierd.
I'm going to take a time-out from the colour debate until we have decided on insignia and markings.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:01 pm
by Gimi
Staer9 wrote:
I can't help but think those thrusters look a bit bizzare... (probably because they were built for a different ship)

If you pm me the .dat (or even .obj if you have it) I can give it a bit of a touch-up.
Breaks on please!
Please don't start modelling just yet. Smivs design, while cool, probably deviates too much from the original Boa design for my taste. We all need to agree on concepts first; please.

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:04 pm
by Cody
<nods vigorously>

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:08 pm
by Smivs
Staer9 wrote:
I can't help but think those thrusters look a bit bizzare... (probably because they were built for a different ship)
If you pm me the .dat (or even .obj if you have it) I can give it a bit of a touch-up.
Thanks Staer9. The whole ship looks a bit bizarre in some ways...I'm just trying ideas out. It is basically a standard Boa2 with various appendages attached (including as you noticed a chopped cobra embedded within it :lol: )
We are keen to keep the ships for this OXP close to the originals, but at some point custom models would be desirable as clearly there is only so much you can do adding other items as sub-ents which is what I'm currently doing.

Edit:- Just seen Gimi's latest post! :D

Re: Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:03 pm
by Staer9
Gimi wrote:
Staer9 wrote:
I can't help but think those thrusters look a bit bizzare... (probably because they were built for a different ship)

If you pm me the .dat (or even .obj if you have it) I can give it a bit of a touch-up.
Breaks on please!
Please don't start modelling just yet. Smivs design, while cool, probably deviates too much from the original Boa design for my taste. We all need to agree on concepts first; please.
Heh :)

Sure, but if you need a modeller I'd be happy to help (And I like working with Smivs because I get away with not having to make any textures :wink: )