Page 12 of 12
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:21 am
by phkb
Bicorn wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:07 am
I think I'm still doing something wrong - no matter what I do I can't get the new lines to show up. They always just respond with the generic default lines.
Well, I copied the samples I gave before, expanded this line to actually have some replies:
Code: Select all
"kephalan_type3_reply" = ("Hiya!","G'day matey!");
, then spawned in a Kephalan ship, sent a greeting and got a "Hiya!" response. So, I can at least confirm the concept works (ie I was able to successfully override BCC's responses). Which means there's something wrong with your implementation.
Personally, I wouldn't add a "Config" folder directly to the AddOns folder. My suggestion would be to create a folder in AddOns called "Alien_BCC_Responses.oxp", and put the Config folder in there. Then put the two files into that Config folder.
The other thing to check is latest.log. That might reveal an error which is preventing one of the files from loading.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:54 am
by Bicorn
phkb wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:21 am
The other thing to check is latest.log. That might reveal an error which is preventing one of the files from loading.
This looks like the likely culprit:
07:05:15.903 [oxp-standards.error]: OXP ../AddOns/alien_comms.oxp has no manifest.plist
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:01 am
by Bicorn
Hmm, nope, I added a manifest and it still doesn't work.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:16 am
by Cholmondely
Bicorn wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:01 am
Hmm, nope, I added a manifest and it still doesn't work.
No, the Manifest only helps Oolite (and the Expansions Manager/Oolite Starter) to recognise an OXP. It has no effect on whether it works!
Have you tried a linter?
*
https://www.jslint.com/ seems to be good for Oolite's version of Javascript.
*You will need an OpenStep parser for the .plists.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:35 am
by Bicorn
BLAGH! Once again I had managed to out-smart myself.
I had made a separate Oolite install for testing so I can keep this experimental stuff from messing up my main game... and then accidentally edited files in the old install's AddOns folder instead. Once I put the files in the correct install's folder it works.
In other news, it looks like comms messages can't display unicode characters, which is a bit of a shame - I was thinking of having Odonateans communicate in indecipherable symbols.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:55 am
by phkb
Yes, the only characters Oolite can display are in the
oolite-font.png file.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 3:02 pm
by Cholmondely
In extremis, you could change the
font and include the file inside your OXP. But I doubt that there are very many spare characters to play around with. Unless there is some way of adding more known to our Admiralty.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:00 pm
by Cholmondely
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 3:02 pm
In extremis, you could change the
font and include the file inside your OXP. But I doubt that there are very many spare characters to play around with. Unless there is some way of adding more known to our Admiralty.
Actually, it
must be possible. Krager is translating everything into Russian (written in Cyrillic which has at least 33 letters - 33 capitals and 33 smalls). So you should be able to play around with those extra letters - try digging around
inside your Oolite download for
Cyrillic.oxp (
Eastern_European.oxp might have one or two more letters!).
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:51 pm
by Bicorn
phkb wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:55 am
Yes, the only characters Oolite can display are in the
oolite-font.png file.
What's the correct way to access the new glyphs included in it for strings?
In other news, I may be able to do something interesting with the Oolite font symbols for Odonateans, and the Scorpax I'm currently making sound like Yautja, but I haven't had any good inspiration for the Kephalans. Suggestions?
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:15 pm
by Cholmondely
Bicorn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:51 pm
but I haven't had any good inspiration for the Kephalans. Suggestions?
There seem to be a zillion and one packages doing
this sort of thing:
https://dynamicsubspace.net/2023/11/08/ ... l-writing/
With a name like Kephalans...
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:16 am
by phkb
On Windows I'd use the Character map app. But in the interests of making everyone's life easier:
Code: Select all
!"#$%&'()*+,-./
0123456789:;<=>?
@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO
PQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
`abcdefghijklmno
pqrstuvwxyz{|}~@
₢ ‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹Œ Ž
‘’“”•–—˜™š›œ žŸ
¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬-®¯
°±²³´µ¶∙¸¹º»¼½¾¿
ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏ
ÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞß
àáâãäåæçèéêëìíîï
ðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ
Just copy and paste the characters from here.
Re: BroadcastComms MFD [Release]
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:35 am
by phkb
For the other characters (like the government and economy icons), I use code like this:
Governments:
Code: Select all
var govs = new Array();
for (var i = 0; i < 8; i++)
govs.push(String.fromCharCode(i));
Economies:
Code: Select all
var ecos = new Array();
for (i = 0; i < 8; i++)
ecos.push(String.fromCharCode(23 - i));
I can then use them like this:
Code: Select all
var govText = "Anarchy Government = " + govs[0];
var ecoText = "Rich Industrial = " + ecos[0];
