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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:06 am
by Cmdr Wyvern
The Caddy has a problem with fuel stations, which don't have a docking port per se. But that's not because of it's size; the Caddy is a fairly compact ship, width/height wise.
Now the Kirin is a honkin' big brute, and the pilot has to be careful easing that thing into dock, as there's precious little room for error.
Parking the original BCC is an adventure as well; it's quite tall but not so wide. You need to dock it sideways. I'm sure there's some other ships that need abnormal methods to dock.
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:31 am
by Diziet Sma
Cmdr Wyvern wrote:I'm sure there's some other ships that need abnormal methods to dock.
Like the ol' "brute force and
lots of vaseline" technique, you mean?
Link to the related thread
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:43 am
by ClymAngus
There was a school of thought that maybe intersecting collission boxes might be to blame but we checked that. Caddy was scaled down to try and fix this issue and pilots HAVE flown it through fuel stations and other nondocking ports before. But there is still something twitchy about it that makes it fail more than it should.
I've looked at the code, as have several others and technically there appears to be nothing wrong with it. I am going to try stripping down a version and see if that fixes it. There are two intersecting objects as part of the main body of the craft, but we'd find out if that was it, by stripping down the ship and seeing if it still goes boom!
To be honest I'm running out of ideas. It's a difficult bug to squash.
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:18 pm
by Cmdr Wyvern
Diziet Sma wrote:Cmdr Wyvern wrote:I'm sure there's some other ships that need abnormal methods to dock.
Like the ol' "brute force and
lots of vaseline" technique, you mean?
Link to the related thread
:groan:
Any ship that requires the liberal application of several TCs of AstroGlide on it's hull to dock, is waaaaaaaaaay too large to even try to dock. Amirite?
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:24 pm
by Cmdr Wyvern
ClymAngus wrote:There was a school of thought that maybe intersecting collission boxes might be to blame but we checked that. Caddy was scaled down to try and fix this issue and pilots HAVE flown it through fuel stations and other nondocking ports before. But there is still something twitchy about it that makes it fail more than it should.
I've looked at the code, as have several others and technically there appears to be nothing wrong with it. I am going to try stripping down a version and see if that fixes it. There are two intersecting objects as part of the main body of the craft, but we'd find out if that was it, by stripping down the ship and seeing if it still goes boom!
To be honest I'm running out of ideas. It's a difficult bug to squash.
I came to the conclusion that the weirdness didn't lie with the Caddy, but with the fuel station somehow. Still a difficult problem to pin down.
In the meanwhile, my workaround solution was to hack the fuel station oxp so that only the satellites appeared. The sats let you gas up without blowing you up.
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:23 pm
by Thargoid
You don't need to hack it if you have OXPConfig installed. I set one of the flag up specifically to disable the stations and only show satellites, just for you caddy-jockeys.
And I seem to recall that some of the Thargoid Hives in Cataclysm also had the problem, so it's not just an issue with Fuel Station (and other ships with sub-ents also had it, so it's not just the Caddy either).
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:38 pm
by Cmdr Wyvern
Thargoid wrote:
And I seem to recall that some of the Thargoid Hives in Cataclysm also had the problem, so it's not just an issue with Fuel Station (and other ships with sub-ents also had it, so it's not just the Caddy either).
Yeah, I noticed that, too. It seems to happen when a ship with subents, especially flak turrets, meets station objects without a 'proper' docking port.
BOOM! "Press space". Welcome to reincarnation! Here's an aspirin for the pain in the neck.
Us starjocks just can't get ahead some days.
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:08 am
by Diziet Sma
Cmdr Wyvern wrote:Any ship that requires the liberal application of several TCs of AstroGlide on it's hull to dock, is waaaaaaaaaay too large to even try to dock. Amirite?
Yup... Uamrite..
evolution
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:09 pm
by Fatleaf
I was wandering with the arrival of some of the fancy new gear on the vortex. does the Caduceus feel like evolving some time soon?
Re: evolution
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:19 pm
by ClymAngus
Fatleaf wrote:I was wandering with the arrival of some of the fancy new gear on the vortex. does the Caduceus feel like evolving some time soon?
Well there's a bump map thing in the offing but that's about it at the moment. I'm currently dealing with the vectormaps. Getting everyone nice printable versions that don't kill the toner.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:58 pm
by Switeck
Does the Caddy have any issues with Superhub OXP?
It's incredibly large but still using a non-standard dock "port", so I don't know if it'll work ok.
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:00 am
by Commander McLane
Switeck wrote:Does the Caddy have any issues with Superhub OXP?
It's incredibly large but still using a non-standard dock "port", so I don't know if it'll work ok.
Probably the only way to find out is trying.
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:50 am
by ClymAngus
<sigh> Yeah, he's right. Time to sacrifice a Jameson.
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:11 pm
by Fatleaf
ClymAngus wrote:<sigh> Yeah, he's right. Time to sacrifice a Jameson.
Make sure he's wearing red for this away mission
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:41 pm
by ClymAngus
Oooo get your generation right! Bile yellow or blood red depending on your time line, either could be lethal!
Red, RED! The colour of sacrifice, borne from the raw blood stench pouring from my many wounds as I bleed for the lives of the officers! Red which binds invisibly like crimson treacle to the fabric of my spandex shirt, as unnoticed as all the pathetic efforts of my meagre life! Red like the crying eyes of the children as the weep at the side of my broken form!!!
Where shall we sleep now mother? They scream; Fathers GRAVE???
"it's ok, Jonny, calm down. I think we should be going home now."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJxafiqHvw
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