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Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:05 am
by Redspear
Nice :D

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:32 am
by spud42
awesome cbr. thanks for resurrecting this model.

the pods look a bit "over inflated" lol..

as for the engines, i was never really happy with the texture , i was experimenting with trying to make them look "burned" ie used and overheated.... should have kept to the original texture.

i have uploaded a lot of pictures and research material about the Eagle transporter to the box link. there are a couple of paper models in pdf form there too......

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:36 am
by Norby
Very nice! :)

Let's talk about the ship parameters. I think the size is similar with most escort ships, probably fit into the small side pads of [wiki]Escort Deck[/wiki] which is limited to 15m height, 39m width and 65m length. So I imagine it as a fast ship (400) with 30TC cargo and 3 energy banks.

The long shape is ideal for speed and more internal space in small front area but the drawback is the lower pitch and yaw rates, imho 0.9. Roll is good (3).

I think only a single missile fit into this ship. Side laser mounts surely not exists but this length allow an aft mount which is rare in escorts, making this ship worthwile for traders.

I guess the price is 200.000Cr, as an alternative of Python when the player want a ship after Cobra3 with better speed and smaller front and aft(!) to-hit area instead of more cargo.

I suggest a cheaper escort variant also without the cargo box (0TC) and forward laser only but higher turn rates (1.2) and speed (450).

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:41 am
by Norby
spud42 wrote:
I have uploaded a lot of pictures and research material about the Eagle transporter to the box link.
Which link? Please insert it into the first post, many links points to removed shares in this thread.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:24 am
by spud42
Norby wrote:
spud42 wrote:
I have uploaded a lot of pictures and research material about the Eagle transporter to the box link.
Which link? Please insert it into the first post, many links points to removed shares in this thread.
links were a few posts back, but i have also put them into the first post of this thread.hope they work.

i envisioned this as a 75t ship to fill in what i thought of as a gap between the Cobra and Python. i thought i had sized it in that category but as cbr is finishing it he can make it any size he wishes.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:43 pm
by Norby
spud42 wrote:
I have also put them into the first post of this thread.
Thanks, now I looked into and it is longer (100m) than I guessed so 75t cargo will be good to fill the gap you mentioned.
With this length I think the aft laser could be on the escort variant also.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:51 pm
by cbr
basic specs for low cost type

75t, no optional cargospace
1 gunslot fore ( to keep price low )
2 missiles
speed 0.370 LM
medium energy
medium recharge

can't really sell this for less than 240000

what you get is an very fast trader with reasonable tonnage ( and plenty of update able equipment )

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:09 pm
by cbr
@spud42

It looks like you used some of the texture from that papercraft model, i wonder if you can use those royalty free ?

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:47 pm
by Norby
cbr wrote:
fast trader with reasonable tonnage
Ok. How about an escort variant without the big cargobox but more speed and pitch for 200kCr?

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:03 pm
by spud42
i thought i had asked permission but i cant find anything.

I have left him a message on his deviant art page asking permission to use the art work. as far as i can see there is nothing about licensing or usage terms on his page. quite a few people have built it apparently. Lets hope he agrees.

on a slight tangent the dimensions of his model were different to a lot of the "blueprints"published online. i had to stretch the length and thin its s bit. and i simplified the engines a lot so they look nothing like the real ones..

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:12 pm
by spud42
cbr wrote:
basic specs for low cost type

75t, no optional cargospace
1 gunslot fore ( to keep price low )
2 missiles
speed 0.370 LM
medium energy
medium recharge

can't really sell this for less than 240000

what you get is an very fast trader with reasonable tonnage ( and plenty of update able equipment )
forward laser and 2 missiles is true to the original... the laser when fitted was a turret but aint no way I'm modelling that!! lol

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:39 pm
by cbr
ItÅ› already a fast bugger ingame at 0.37

compare here : http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Fastes ... ly_0.37_LM


About size... it really all depends on the angle your looking at, compared to the two models below it fits just fine

Image

The original engines do look somewhat more organic shaped but when combined with exhausts who can tell :)

Image

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:03 am
by spud42
awesome shot that last one!!!!

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:55 pm
by cbr
I currently have reached the limit i can do for the oogle transporter

Following is a link to the oogle.oxp as i have installed it in my addons directory

https://www.sendspace.com/file/61clt1

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:47 pm
by DredgerMan
Downloaded!

Let's the good times roll!!!!!!

:D :P :D :P :D :P :D :P