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Re: milk runs

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:23 pm
by CheeseRedux
If you want to give McLane OXP ideas, why don't you try this one on for size.

Re: milk runs

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:56 pm
by Commander McLane
CheeseRedux wrote:
If you want to give McLane OXP ideas, why don't you try this one on for size.
Oh, I can handle this one [EliteWiki] retroactively! :D

Re: milk runs

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:21 pm
by treczoks
TGHC wrote:
There are 5 optimal trade routes in galaxy 1, where the greatest differences in prices will give you maximum profits:-
Ararus - Ensoreus
Raleen - Maesin
Inera - Raale
Erlage - Xeesenri
Qudira - Bierle
Hmm, depends on what one calls "optimal". My "Milkrun Calculator" seems to have a totally different opinion of "optimal" when it comes to find the best routes in Galaxy Sector 1:
4 Tianve (Rich Industrial Democracy) <-> Teanrebi (Poor Agricultural Corporate State)
4 Inera (Rich Industrial Corporate State) <-> Aanbiat (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
4 Ceesxe (Rich Industrial Corporate State) <-> Leoned (Average Agricultural Corporate State)
3 Zaatxe (Rich Industrial Corporate State) <-> Alaza (Average Agricultural Democracy)
3 Rexebe (Average Industrial Corporate State) <-> Usatqura (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
3 Rexebe (Average Industrial Corporate State) <-> Aanbiat (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
2 Tianve (Rich Industrial Democracy) <-> Alaza (Average Agricultural Democracy)
2 Ororqu (Average Industrial Democracy) <-> Usatqura (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
2 Ororqu (Average Industrial Democracy) <-> Aanbiat (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
2 Esteonbi (Average Industrial Democracy) <-> Tiinlebi (Poor Agricultural Democracy)
1 Arexe (Average Industrial Democracy) <-> Riveis (Average Agricultural Democracy)

Not only the profit counts, but also whether you can bring the profit home without too much trouble.

Yours, Christian

Re: milk runs

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:25 am
by Coeurlion
For a novice commander,
I found the Tionisla (Ave. Ind, Democracy) <-> Isinor (Poor Ag, Confederacy)
also very helpful.
Low fuel requirements, safe worlds and quick to build up the moola
(with Tionisla at TL12 you get most anything for your ship)
If there's combat, I had no trouble with an under-spec Cobby.

Just my 2cr. worth :wink:

Re: milk runs

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:28 am
by TGHC
Certainly in the early days for a new commander the Tionisla - Isinor is one of the best choices. if you've moved on a bit as Harry 747 seems to have done he can travel further afield and visit some of the more dangerous systems after all you've got to get your kill count up as well and you can avoid the risky space lanes in the anarchy systems so I would still head for those optimal runs I suggested, you will get the best profits for platinum, furs and computers there.

Re: milk runs

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:51 am
by Switeck
Laenin (TL4 Communist Poor Agri.) <-> Xexedi (TL14 Confederacy Rich Industrial)
And separated by less than 1 LY, so you don't even need to top off your fuel every jump. :P
There's a bit of a pirate problem at each, but it pales in comparison to places like Ararus (TL4 Anarchy Poor Agri.)

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:48 am
by Coeurlion
Thanks TGHC, I should have looked at Harry's post more carefully :oops:
My attention seems to slipping a bit :?

Thinking about a novice pilot guide... might get those remaining 'little grey cells' working...

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:11 am
by Commander McLane
Coeurlion wrote:
Thinking about a novice pilot guide...
Do you mean something like [EliteWiki] the helpful musings of Lave station's docking master for a new pilot before his first flight?

Anyway, if you want to invest some of your brain power, we'll certainly welcome it. :D Personally I would plead that it doesn't give away every last little detail beforehand. After all this game is all about exploring and discovering, which doesn't make much sense if there's nothing left to discover and explore. An effort to put it in an in-Ooniverse perspective like Mr Gimlet, rather than an external game-manual, will certainly be appreciated. :wink:

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:39 am
by Coeurlion
I was thinking on those lines, from a 'retired trader/veteran... been there done that' perspective.
I was NOT thinking of a 'do this first/get this bit' etc., since I totally agree with your sentiments.
Mr Gimlet has a wealth of experience, but not from the pilot's seat :wink:

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:06 pm
by Zireael
Coeurlion wrote:
I was thinking on those lines, from a 'retired trader/veteran... been there done that' perspective.
I was NOT thinking of a 'do this first/get this bit' etc., since I totally agree with your sentiments.
Mr Gimlet has a wealth of experience, but not from the pilot's seat :wink:
Veteran Eliter... would be nice to have such a wealth of information...

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:12 pm
by TGHC
Mr Gimlets advice is also supplied as a pdf file in the install package on 1.74.2 along with the reference sheet and readme pdfs.

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:15 pm
by Cody
Zireael wrote:
Veteran Eliter... would be nice to have such a wealth of information...
The 'Veteran Contrabandista's Handbook' will never be published.

Re: milk runs

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:37 pm
by Yah-Ta-Hey
I am using in galaxy 1: The triangular route between Estonbi-Anlama-Tinilebi : low furs and computers to purchase.. high to sell on other planets. I have made enough credits that Tatanka now has long lances(military lasers) instead of my default lances. also now have extra energy pack and heat shields and injectors added to make him a formidable opponent. also 2 of the planets are close enough that I can break the witchspace interface and get to those who lurk in the netherworld with enough fuel to get out if I need to run. So far, I am getting the credits to afford the fuel tanks so I can do longer jumps. Now in the wisdom of the Dinah: "go forth with power and walk in the mocassins of the monster slayer." Yah-Ta-Hey

Re: milk runs

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:02 am
by TGHC
You should also be buying/selling platinum and gold as well, there are no cargo hold restrictions, but yo are limted to selling or buying a maximum of 125kg at a time.

Re: milk runs

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:04 am
by Ganelon
Gold and platinum do eventually add up to where they cut into your cargo space, but it takes a while to get enough for that to happen. I assume gems do as well, but since they come in grams, it'd take a loooong time to build up enough in your ship's safe to go over 500 kilos or whatever it is where Oolite decides your safe is taking up cargo space.