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Re: The IFF scanner is your friend

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:50 am
by Eric Walch
KZ9999 wrote:
Have other players noticed how NPC's only seem to use them as a dead-man-bomb. <mutters under breath>Bastards. :lol:
NPC's mostly deploy the bomb it on death, but I consider that as a flaw in the ships design. In most cases it is because the oxp writer did not know that it is possible to let the ship drop the bomb itself before death and made it part of the death handling.

But you are right, it seems completely pointless to have such a super weapon and only use it when it is to late. (read: when the pilot was killed. ) When I would fly a ship with such a weapon would deploy it before death.

Not all NPC's do it wrong. e.g. the super cobra really uses it in a way to shake of persuaders. And also the targets in random hits have programmed the bomb in the correct way and can deploy it as part of their fleeing tactics.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:13 am
by Thargoid
Although you do need to be a bit careful with it.

In Second Wave I set the Command Thargoid Warship up initially to use one (the mine Tharglet, their equivalent of a q-bomb) as a cover when it ran away (it's designed to be the only Thargoid craft that does so).

But in play as the Command ship can be spawned as part of an interstellar space battle, it does tend to spoil the fun a bit by blowing everything up. If the equivalent happens in a pirate/police fight it could have just the same spoiler effect. I coded around it with the Thargmine, but the AI for the q-bomb would need to be considered in the same way if its usage as an escape cover came into play.

I would suggest a special "ass covering" variant of the q-bomb for this, specifically used under controlled conditions when the mothership will be known to be alone (e.g. in a Random-Hits type mission).

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:47 am
by Captain Hesperus
harry747 wrote:
dead man bomb? as in "you're a dead man if you don't use it"?
More 'I'm gonna be a dead man, so I'm gonna try and take you with me' bomb, but with less words. ;)

Captain Hesperus

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:19 pm
by Screet
harry747 wrote:
dead man bomb? as in "you're a dead man if you don't use it"?
As in "when I die, you are dead, too!". They use the q-bombs when they die, thus a ship that's trying to pursue them has a big chance of being caught in the blast - even with injectors.

Screet

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:47 pm
by Rebecca
i saw one go off in front of me the other day... turned around and run but still got killed...

...then i re-read the wiki entry on fuel injectors and the light came on. :oops: ... i thought they were automatic :lol: didn't realise i had to press a button... :oops:

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:13 pm
by Captain Hesperus
Rebecca wrote:
i saw one go off in front of me the other day... turned around and run but still got killed...

...then i re-read the wiki entry on fuel injectors and the light came on. :oops: ... i thought they were automatic :lol: didn't realise i had to press a button... :oops:
And keep the button pressed. It's not a 'toggle-on, toggle-off' button, as I found out the first time I used it......

Captain Hesperus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:22 pm
by Rebecca
if it had been labeled 'turbo' or something like in galaxyquest i might have cottoned on quicker! 8)