Oolite Bulletins

hiran wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:15 pm

user2357 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:21 am

How do we go about backing up and preserving those notes? I had a sitecrawler program many yonks ago, around about that very same time, that could download any number of specified pages/"sub-url-addresses" from a website. Do such software still exist? Would something like that work on livejournal? Guess I'll have to do some research. I'd appreciate any participation and contributions from the floor as well.

As a first I'd try the Internet Archive and their Wayback machine at https://web.archive.org/web/*/oolite.org

So here you can see how oolite.org looked like end of 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20081218034 ... olite.org/

Welcome back!

I would guess that a new OutputDir might be an idea - lots of new oxp's: IronAss vols 1-4, Wyverns new additions, Montana's steady stream, etc. Can we include any of the oxp's which are not oxz's?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:20 pm

Welcome back!

Thanks

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:20 pm

I would guess that a new OutputDir might be an idea - lots of new oxp's: IronAss vols 1-4, Wyverns new additions, Montana's steady stream, etc. Can we include any of the oxp's which are not oxz's?

That index gets rebuilt automatically every month. Just download it from the releases page on Github:
https://github.com/HiranChaudhuri/Oolit ... r/releases

The indexer will cover everything that is distributed via the addons manager. I'd be surprised if OXPs were contained in that list, so someone would have to add that functionality.

Thank you, commanders!

Apologies for my spotty participation on my own thread. I can check in once a week on a sunday, but RL sometimes...

I have tried to capture https://oolite.livejournal.com/ by means of https://www.httrack.com/, but after about a week of more or less continuous downloading, and interruptions, and download sizes growing to more than 2GB, and then shrinking inexplicably down to less than 300MB again, and then growing again, and trying to adjust download settings more appropriately for greater efficiency, and retrying, and nothing but the oolite.livejournal landing page remaining accessible on my local HDD... I just gave up. Maybe, someday, I'll copy it all down on paper, by hand.

Going to follow up on the other leads you so kindly supplied here above.

Thanks, again.

Sincerely
user <o

FYI

Following some leads, I discovered, in Commander KZ9999's signature (last active 27 sep 2009) on these here Oolite bulletin boards a reference to https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... liteRS.pdf, which, on the second last page, in the bottom right-hand corner, indicates 'Inspired by the OoliteRS by Darkbee / another_commander / Commander McLane'.

Now, to track down them other commanders as well. ...or perhaps rather find a possible bulletin-board thread where the original OoliteRS might have been discussed.

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:33 am

... find a possible bulletin-board thread where the original OoliteRS might have been discussed.

That discussion may well have been lost in the  Great Deletion.

Cody wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:48 am

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:33 am

... find a possible bulletin-board thread where the original OoliteRS might have been discussed.

That discussion may well have been lost in the  Great Deletion.

Possibly. That would be sad.

However, searching "OoliteRS" on these boards, the earliest reference I could find was on viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1617&hilit=ooliters&start=15, 29 Mar 2006, Commander TGHC's post, in reply to Commander Frantic's post regarding http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolite ... d_Controls, which led me click the "history" tab at the top of that wiki page, and discover https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php?title ... oldid=2566, the earliest version of "Oolite Keyboard Controls".

I find the rest of that thread on "Berlios Downloads PC-Oolite" also rather interesting.

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 7:42 am

I have tried to capture https://oolite.livejournal.com/ by means of https://www.httrack.com/, but after about a week of more or less continuous downloading, and interruptions, and download sizes growing to more than 2GB, and then shrinking inexplicably down to less than 300MB again, and then growing again, and trying to adjust download settings more appropriately for greater efficiency, and retrying, and nothing but the oolite.livejournal landing page remaining accessible on my local HDD... I just gave up. Maybe, someday, I'll copy it all down on paper, by hand.

That's too bad that no ingenious automated transcribing method presented itself. Since it's almost all just text on a calendar and very few of the media links have any of their original stuffing left, I can't see it becoming more than a light file. I might test myself and see if copypasting it to the wiki is too taxing..

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:33 am

Now, to track down them other commanders as well. ...or perhaps rather find a possible bulletin-board thread where the original OoliteRS might have been discussed.

I did try to send an email to an old Darkbee address, but sadly, it bounced

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 7:42 am

I have tried to capture https://oolite.livejournal.com/ by means of https://www.httrack.com/, but after about a week of more or less continuous downloading, and interruptions, and download sizes growing to more than 2GB, and then shrinking inexplicably down to less than 300MB again, and then growing again, and trying to adjust download settings more appropriately for greater efficiency, and retrying, and nothing but the oolite.livejournal landing page remaining accessible on my local HDD... I just gave up. Maybe, someday, I'll copy it all down on paper, by hand.

I did it, it wasn't too troublesome. The livejournal developer's journal is now backed up on  Aegidian devlog.

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 1:53 am

I did it, it wasn't too troublesome. The livejournal developer's journal is now backed up on  Aegidian devlog.

Thank you, Commander Murgh! <o Great job!

I just discovered it yesterday myself, and being able to scroll through it smoothly, makes reading just that little bit easier. I also appreciate the appendices, in particular the todolist.

"It's that little bit 'extra'
that makes the ordinary
*extra*-ordinary!"

Thanks again.

Sincerely
user

user2357 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 5:30 am

Thank you, Commander Murgh! <o Great job!

I just discovered it yesterday myself, and being able to scroll through it smoothly, makes reading just that little bit easier. I also appreciate the appendices, in particular the todolist.

"It's that little bit 'extra'
that makes the ordinary
*extra*-ordinary!"

Thanks again.

Sincerely
user

Gosh. Thank you for the appreciation (and prompting the process to get the transcription started with).

It was mostly an enjoyable little project, sniffing out what possibly might be hidden in the wayback archives, and a bit frustrating to have to accept all the things that weren’t stored in the wayback archives. A shame about quite a few images that it would have been nice to affix for posterity. I think I’m out of tricks to find more of them. Wayback has still some old screenshots from the mainsite and some of those may have been used in the log, but it now seems difficult to match them to the original context, so this aspect now seems lost.

But the original todolist was a pleasant reveal. When I remembered it, I hoped hard it had been archived. It’s a neat representation of GIles’ accomplishment and ambitions.