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Then I appear to have misapprehended the thrust of your argument (which, I admit, was not entirely clear to me, and still isn't entirely).

But these accessories and weapons are external - you simply have to take the manufacturers' word for it (or use a bit of imagination). It is irrelevant, in my view, whether we can see them or have pictorial evidence of them - we just know they exist in-game.

Perhaps you should start a separate thread on this subject? - This one is for update-announcements, principally...

Reval wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:04 am

Then I appear to have misapprehended the thrust of your argument (which, I admit, was not entirely clear to me, and still isn't entirely).

But these accessories and weapons are external - you simply have to take the manufacturers' word for it (or use a bit of imagination). It is irrelevant, in my view, whether we can see them or have pictorial evidence of them - we just know they exist in-game.

Perhaps you should start a separate thread on this subject? - This one is for update-announcements, principally...

I've only just realised! You made it to Oolite ranking with your number of bb posts - and in no time flat! Congratulations!!

Thank you! - most kind. Your own Ascension to the storied realm is not far off, I see (256 would appear to be the magic number).

But back to the topic-in-hand:

Important tip

If you buy a GC and the installation fails to 'take' (ie. you do not see the 'Fitting Goods Container #...' console message and then notice your cargo space hasn't changed), simply select 'Unmount and sell all pylon mounted weapons' and re-buy.

So far, I have been unable to ascertain why failures occasionally occur. It does seem to follow the purchase of a new ship, though. Perhaps someone with greater Javascripting experience could help me solve this one, as it has proven beyond my present meagre abilities...

Goods Container 5 TC, version 1.2

Now in the Manager and on the Wiki.

An externally mounted cargo cannister, installed on any available missile hardpoint. This is the 5-ton variant for 5000 cr (tech level 6+).

Trade well!

Goods Container 10 TC, version 1.2

Now in the Manager and on the Wiki.

An externally mounted cargo cannister, installed on any available missile hardpoint. This is the 10-ton variant for 10000 cr (tech level 6+).

Trade well!

Intriguing Bug:

Slartibartfast wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:39 pm

i had bought 10to "cargo on pylon" for my former ship.
and fired ( launched) it accidentally in a battle.

and this happened.
- the 10to cargo extension explodes like a quirium mine ( strange )
- the pylon is free ( as expected )
- the 10to more cargo space remains ( nice )

matthias

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:15 pm

Intriguing Bug:

Can't be, since all the authors OXP's are well tested it should be a hidden feature, for sure it wouldn't be a bug.

Hi

as far as i remember there was another issue

When saving the game with full cargo ( normal +10to )
the 10to ( maybe computers) are gone after loading the saved game ( with not launched pylon mounted cargo container )

it should be a hidden feature

that it explodes -- maybe

but carrying 40to more with a Cobra ( or 60to with Cobra XT ) without loosing the free pylons
--- i don' t think so

matthias

edit:
-- i just grubbed for my old Cobra XT -- tested -> now 60to ( 30 +10 +20 ) Cargo Space
and 6 missiles

30to -"normal"
10to -large Cargo Bay
20to - 2 fired cargo conrtainers ( nice explosions )

Slartibartfast wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:08 pm

Hi

as far as i remember there was another issue

When saving the game with full cargo ( normal +10to )
the 10to ( maybe computers) are gone after loading the saved game ( with not launched pylon mounted cargo container )

it should be a hidden feature

that it explodes -- maybe

but carrying 40to more with a Cobra ( or 60to with Cobra XT ) without loosing the free pylons
--- i don' t think so

matthias

edit:
-- i just grubbed for my old Cobra XT -- tested -> now 60to ( 30 +10 +20 ) Cargo Space
and 6 missiles

30to -"normal"
10to -large Cargo Bay
20to - 2 fired cargo conrtainers ( nice explosions )

Sorry to confuse you, my prior comment was meant to be sarcastic. Most likely, there are bugs in this package.

One way to settle this - given that there are models for missiles and for cargo containers, how does the size of a missile compare to a cargo container. Bigger? Smaller?

One possible restriction I'd suggest - there might be a regulation against using them for cargo contracts (as opposed to loading them up with stuff you're buying and selling for yourself) since the insurers won't cover them. That way the largest cargo you can get under contract would be the normal capacity with any hold expansion.

Reval wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:24 pm

Goods Container 10 TC, version 1.2

Now in the Manager and on the Wiki.

An externally mounted cargo cannister, installed on any available missile hardpoint. This is the 10-ton variant for 10000 cr (tech level 6+).

Trade well!

I'm running this version of the OXP but my TC10 container isn't showing up - I'm not getting any increased storage. The pylon shows that it is occupied by the equipment, but nothing changes in the overall cargo capacity of the ship. What can I look for to track down the problem?

arquebus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:08 am

What can I look for to track down the problem?

Anything that changes the default cargo space of a ship. Some ship OXPs are based on core ships, but expand the default cargo space (the Adder has a couple of OXPs that do this). Ship Configuration will adjust cargo space, and I’m sure there are others.

phkb wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:40 am

arquebus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:08 am

What can I look for to track down the problem?

Anything that changes the default cargo space of a ship. Some ship OXPs are based on core ships, but expand the default cargo space (the Adder has a couple of OXPs that do this). Ship Configuration will adjust cargo space, and I’m sure there are others.

Hm... I'm pretty sure I don't have anything like that installed. I don't have Ship Configuration and I'm running on a stock Cobra III.

Unfortunately it looks like the issue may be unrecoverable for my save. I wasn't able to get Goods Container to work even after pulling all other OXPs out of the load.

I have also noticed the found a bug.

When remove a Container the Ships cargo capacity remains the same i.e. A Cobra IV with extra cargo is 60T by adding 2 Containers you have 80T, when the containers are removed the Ship still has 80T capacity.

Note: I have tried deleting the Cache on start and capacity remains at 80T, also tried a Cobra 3, Cadi Alpha and Omega, Vampire Redux and VI, Xarik and Firefly Class Transport

Hi Alucard

have you read the here 5 or 6 post above?

matthias