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Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:54 pm
by Norby
another_commander wrote:
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If we could get a writable js variable to turn the ship names on and off then we can make a control equipment for this function.
ClymAngus wrote:
I do like the idea of a switchable mega nav scope
HUDs could define two scanners, a normal and a mega one, using equipment_required to switch between these and show names only when the mega scanner is displayed.
Alternatively the mega scanner could be in the starboard view.

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:32 pm
by cbr
quicky megahud style :)

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Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:14 pm
by Fritz
Zireael wrote:
There's an OXP which changes the lollipop colors for offenders :)
I wonder if there is any idea that hasn't been made into an OXP! :lol:

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:28 am
by Redspear
another_commander wrote:
I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but would this be a reasonable compromise, given that it's already in the code (dormant though)?
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I like that :) . I think you may have explained this before, but I didnt quite understand it at the time: how does one go about turning this on? Is it activated in the source code?

Couple of fairly obvious things
  • combining lollipop colour with text means that 'Dodecahedron Station' need only be 'Dodecahedron' or even 'Dodec' (green colour tells us the station part)
  • As well as the 'turn off when scanner is busy' idea, there could also be a 'reduce text to initials when busy' mode, e.g. 'Gal Cop Viper Interceptor' becomes 'GCVI', or even just 'VI' next to the purple lollipop.

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:45 am
by another_commander
Redspear wrote:
I like that :) . I think you may have explained this before, but I didnt quite understand it at the time: how does one go about turning this on? Is it activated in the source code?
It's very easy. Just open the file HeadUpDisplay.m in a text editor, change the line near the top that reads

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#define IDENTIFY_SCANNER_LOLLIPOPS	(	0	&& !defined(NDEBUG))
to

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#define IDENTIFY_SCANNER_LOLLIPOPS	1
and recompile.

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:13 am
by Redspear
another_commander wrote:
It's very easy...
Thanks :)

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:55 pm
by ClymAngus
cbr wrote:
quicky megahud style :)

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Man! We gotta dull down that red!

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:55 pm
by Zireael
Redspear wrote:
another_commander wrote:
I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but would this be a reasonable compromise, given that it's already in the code (dormant though)?
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I like that :) . I think you may have explained this before, but I didnt quite understand it at the time: how does one go about turning this on? Is it activated in the source code?

Couple of fairly obvious things
  • combining lollipop colour with text means that 'Dodecahedron Station' need only be 'Dodecahedron' or even 'Dodec' (green colour tells us the station part)
  • As well as the 'turn off when scanner is busy' idea, there could also be a 'reduce text to initials when busy' mode, e.g. 'Gal Cop Viper Interceptor' becomes 'GCVI', or even just 'VI' next to the purple lollipop.
I love these ideas!

Re: selectable hud 'radar' icons/sprites

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:08 pm
by Redspear
Zireael wrote:
I love these ideas!
Thanks :)

I think it just reads from the standard shipdata.plist name at present, so it would likely require a workaround in that case.

I have been trying out this scanner feature and I am thoroughly enjoying it. Yes, occasionally the names get crowded and illegible but rarely to they make lollipops less discernable (at least to any degree of significance).
Often a quick touch of the roll button will move the text sufficiently for it to be readable again when crowded.
It makes mining less confusing ('is that a splinter, a boulder or an asteroid there?') and it even makes mass locks more bearable! It keeps my mind engaged with the ships on a level that doesn't otherwise occur, unless I head towards them to investigate. This way I can decide if I want to investigate, bypass or actively avoid based on important but circumstantial clues.

I think I'll be keeping it a while longer :)