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Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:23 pm
by StathisR
Cody wrote:StathisR wrote:The CPU/MB/RAM will go all in one so i can test them.
You can test that bundle before fitting it into the case too - simply jump-start the mobo (with it connected to the PSU, of course).
That's the way i do it. Especially when i am troubleshooting and i have to test many parts.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:42 pm
by Pleb
Another question, would the PSU I've selected be enough, the CORSAIR 650W VS SERIES™ VS-650 POWER SUPPLY, or would getting a CORSAIR 750W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET be a better idea?
I've also changed the mobo to the ASUS® H97M-E: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs instead, as this has 4x DIMMs. Only thing is, Windows 7 Home Premium can only use up to 16GB of RAM anyway...
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:57 pm
by Cody
Options and price-creep - 'twere ever thus! The 750W PSU is only £16 more, I believe - and Win 7 Pro an extra £30.
Both worth it, in my opinion. I'm putting a Corsair RM 750W into my new build - and I also have a GTX 770 GPU.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:49 pm
by StathisR
GTX 770 (and GTX 780) have minimum power requirements a system with 600W PSU so it will be ok a 650W. But i went to a 760W to be in the safe side.
I am leaning towards i7 4790K with the on die GPU (no need for a GPU on the M/B).
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:55 pm
by Cody
<nods> The extra power can be handy for potential future expansion (SLI), plus he gets the quieter, modular PSU - fewer cables, which means better airflow.
Just saw your edit - are you sure the IGP will suffice? You can always slap a GPU in later, of course.
My machine is built around an i5 4670K CPU - which I've had for six months already.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:27 am
by CommRLock78
i5s still have plenty o' shelf-life, I'd reckon. My old Pentium 4 is still good for some sorts of computing
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Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:07 am
by StathisR
I mean you don't need a M/B with onboard GPU for backup. I am aiming to a GTX 770 too.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:16 pm
by JazHaz
I have an i7 in my "gaming laptop". Its good, and future proofed for longer, but I wish I had got a better GPU.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:37 pm
by Pleb
I'm going to go ahead with the i7 and probably the same case, as I'm not planning on upgrading it anytime soon so it should be ok.
Earlier it was mentioned about money not being a problem... If it wasn't this is what I'd go for:
Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS 2 ULTRA TOWER
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 - 8 Core Processor Extreme i7-5960X (3.0GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® RAMPAGE V EXTREME: ATX, HSW-E CPU, USB 3.0, SATA 6 GB/s
Memory (RAM)
64GB CRUCIAL DDR4 2133MHz (8 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX TITAN Z - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP 1.2
Free Item
Free Item
FREE BORDERLANDS: THE PRE-SEQUEL with GTX 770/780/780/TITAN GPUs!
2nd Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX TITAN Z - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP 1.2
Free Item
Free Item
FREE BORDERLANDS: THE PRE-SEQUEL with GTX 770/780/780/TITAN GPUs!
1st Hard Disk
Plextor 512GB M6e PCI-Express (upto 770MB/sR | 625MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
4TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD4003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1500W 80 PLUS TITANIUM AX1500i DIGITAL MODULAR PSU (£309)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£89)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster ZxR 5.1 PCI-E Soundcard (£182)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£139)
If I had a spare £7K that is lol!!!
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:44 pm
by Smivs
Pleb wrote:
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£139)
I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 pm
by Pleb
I'm not a fan of Windows but Linux confuses me and Apple is just a overpriced designer label... I'm sure it's great if you're a musician or graphics designer but for the average joe like me it's not really worth the price tag.
Saying that a Mac is cheaper than the £7K system above!
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:17 pm
by Smivs
Pleb wrote:I'm not a fan of Windows but Linux confuses me...
That works the other way round as well. I haven't got a clue how the current Windowses work! A friend has a dual-boot Fedora/Windows 7 machine and the Windows side might as well be Thargoid for all the sense it makes to me.
Pleb wrote:...and Apple is just a overpriced designer label... I'm sure it's great if you're a musician or graphics designer but for the average joe like me it's not really worth the price tag.
Saying that a Mac is cheaper than the £7K system above!
I've never used Apple at all (too expensive) but friends who do tell me it is excellent. I guess you pays your money and take your choice as in so much of life.
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:25 pm
by Pleb
I hear good things about Apple (and Linux) but I really just can't get to grips with either. There's something about Apple that I really don't like and I think it's the whole "buy me I'm a fashion accessory" thing. I'm sure if I gave it a chance it would be ok but as everything I have game wise that isn't for PS3 is Windows there's not much point in switching... Same with Linux except I do have Ubuntu on a USB drive for when my laptop decides it doesn't want to boot into Windows 8 so I can boot into Linux reset and then load into Windows...hence why my next PC will have Windows 7 on!
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:35 pm
by Cody
Pleb wrote:Earlier it was mentioned about money not being a problem... If it wasn't this is what I'd go for: [snip]
With all that kit, you'd need to spend another £700 for an Asus ROG Swift PG278Q -
the gaming monitor!
Re: i5 or i7 Quad Core Processor?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:48 pm
by Pleb
Cody wrote:Pleb wrote:Earlier it was mentioned about money not being a problem... If it wasn't this is what I'd go for: [snip]
With all that kit, you'd need to spend another £700 for an Asus ROG Swift PG278Q -
the gaming monitor!
I haven't used a monitor in years, not since HDMI output on PC. I use my 40"TV instead!
http://www.pleb-industries.com/20140819 ... 5b1%5d.jpg
Although that pic has my laptop connected to my pc, I usually have a mini tower connected to use to watch films on stored on the external hard drive .