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Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:21 pm
by Cody
Cmdr Wyvern wrote:They only thing they're missing to be seriously ninja are cloaking devices.
Hush... don't go giving the Admiralty ideas like that! Mind you, mil jammers would be worse!
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:58 pm
by mossfoot
Cmdr Wyvern wrote:Sounds like the assassins are trying to do it ninja style. They only thing they're missing to be seriously ninja are cloaking devices. Which, we should count ourselves lucky that's above their pay grade.
Mossfoot clenches his fist. "Space ninjas. I knew it."
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:36 am
by Malacandra
I've obviously not figured out the shipnames fix yet, but eh. Meanwhile, I look forward to some assassins turning up screaming for the head of one of my latest passengers, who rejoices in the name "Veonesle Xeones-Xeones-Davybern"
Incidentally, changing the name of my Python to "RMS Titanic" might be seen as tempting fate.
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:44 am
by Zireael
mossfoot wrote:Cody wrote:Venator Dha wrote:My in game view is that any assassin with their salt would be hiding or not have ship names.
Probably true - but if all other ships have names, they identify themselves by not having them.
All assassin ships are named "Guy Incognito"
LOL
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:27 pm
by CaptSolo
'Maybe someone else got him... Or he is still on his way.'
'Chill guys, he'll be the one flying a purple Adder and armed only with a pulse laser.'
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:59 am
by Diziet Sma
Cody wrote:Venator Dha wrote:My in game view is that any assassin with their salt would be hiding or not have ship names.
Probably true - but if all other ships have names, they identify themselves by not having them.
Exactly.. in a Ooniverse where everyone names their ships,
not having a name only draws attention to yourself. Any assassin worth their salt knows how to blend in with the crowd. They might
change the ship name after every job, but they'd have a name, and basically an innocuous one. To do otherwise is to invite suspicion.
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:08 am
by mossfoot
Diziet Sma wrote:Cody wrote:Venator Dha wrote:My in game view is that any assassin with their salt would be hiding or not have ship names.
Probably true - but if all other ships have names, they identify themselves by not having them.
Exactly.. in a Ooniverse where everyone names their ships,
not having a name only draws attention to yourself. Any assassin worth their salt knows how to blend in with the crowd. They might
change the ship name after every job, but they'd have a name, and basically an innocuous one. To do otherwise is to invite suspicion.
Assassins should in fact have a list of harmless sounding names.
"help! Mayday! I'm being attacked by the Fluffy Bunny!"
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:10 am
by Diziet Sma
mossfoot wrote:Assassins should in fact have a list of harmless sounding names.
"help! Mayday! I'm being attacked by the Fluffy Bunny!"
Good point.. think I'll rework that patch, to give them ordinary traders names.
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:20 am
by mossfoot
Diziet Sma wrote:mossfoot wrote:Assassins should in fact have a list of harmless sounding names.
"help! Mayday! I'm being attacked by the Fluffy Bunny!"
Good point.. think I'll rework that patch, to give them ordinary traders names.
Its a good idea, but there should perhaps be some kind of clue that lets you figure out they're assassins and not glitchy traders... Names that could have a double meaning, perhaps? Or perhaps names that are super harmless sounding (ie fluffy bunny) so that they get the 'joke' once fired upon?
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:56 am
by Diziet Sma
mossfoot wrote:Its a good idea, but there should perhaps be some kind of clue that lets you figure out they're assassins and not glitchy traders... Names that could have a double meaning, perhaps? Or perhaps names that are super harmless sounding (ie fluffy bunny) so that they get the 'joke' once fired upon?
The problem as I see it, with that approach, is that it just ends up making the assassins look a little foolish.. "Huh.. 'Muffins The Kitten', 'Fluffy Bunny' and 'Mostly Harmless'? Who do those idiots think they're fooling?
"
For those that like their Ooniverse logical (no matter how much handwavium the "logic" requires), it would make more sense that the names
not give the game away.. for that, you already have the comms chatter and the fact that half a dozen clean traders suddenly opened fire on you.. how much of a hint do you need?
Besides.. for those doing passenger and parcel runs, it helps add a nice touch of paranoia to their game.. is that group of traders over there
really what they seem? Should I go over and convoy up with them for the run in-system, or would that be a terrible mistake? Decisions, decisions..
(p.s. - there
are no "glitchy traders"..
)
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:04 am
by Neelix
Diziet Sma wrote:For those that like their Ooniverse logical (no matter how much handwavium the "logic" requires), it would make more sense that the names
not give the game away.. for that, you already have the comms chatter and the fact that half a dozen clean traders suddenly opened fire on you.. how much of a hint do you need?
Not to mention, that many "traders" not in any formation just hanging around the witchpoint? kind of a big hint.. Especially if you happen to be using the
Police IFF Scanner Upgrade.
- Neelix
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:13 am
by cim
Bounty hunter names might be better cover: also clean, also sometimes seen near the witchpoint. Arguably even the same job...
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:28 am
by Diziet Sma
cim wrote:Bounty hunter names might be better cover: also clean, also sometimes seen near the witchpoint. Arguably even the same job...
Very nice idea.. I like.
Edit: As it happens, that's what they're currently using anyway.. Bounty Hunter names.
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:57 am
by Disembodied
Although Random Ship Names does have categories of nouns and adjectives that are classed as "Peaceful" or "Violent", and although pirates, hunters etc. do tend to have more bloodthirsty names (a gram of threat can be worth a kilo of violence), there is an area of overlap. A short while ago I was chased by a pirate pack that had the dread Python Bessie at its heart.
Re: I'm Clean, they're Clean. Why are they attacking me?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:02 pm
by Diziet Sma
Disembodied wrote:A short while ago I was chased by a pirate pack that had the dread Python Bessie at its heart.
Named after the Pirette
Lady Elizabeth Killigrew, no doubt..