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Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 pm
by Rese249er
Commander McLane wrote:
...But it's not a planet anymore. :twisted: So we're still unique! :mrgreen:
Pluto is SO a planet! :evil:

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:43 pm
by Tricky
Rese249er wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
...But it's not a planet anymore. :twisted: So we're still unique! :mrgreen:
Pluto is SO a planet! :evil:
Isn't Pluto smaller than our own moon?

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:54 pm
by DaddyHoggy
Rese249er wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
...But it's not a planet anymore. :twisted: So we're still unique! :mrgreen:
Pluto is SO a planet! :evil:
No. Planetoid. It fails to meet the criteria of having sufficient gravity to pull itself into a sphere. If Pluto got to stay in the planet club, then loads of planetoids since discovered, would have more of a claim than Pluto to planetary status, so they drew a line in the sand and made sure Pluto was on the wrong side of it...

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:58 pm
by Cody
Gustav Holst knew what he was doing - when they eventually commissioned a Pluto addition to the Planets Suite, it just didn't fit, musically.

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:06 pm
by Rese249er
DaddyHoggy wrote:
No. Planetoid...
I may be all of 22 years old, but when it comes to Pluto, I'm still old-fashioned.

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:27 pm
by DaddyHoggy
Rese249er wrote:
DaddyHoggy wrote:
No. Planetoid...
I may be all of 22 years old, but when it comes to Pluto, I'm still old-fashioned.
He's not the best of Disney's creations if I'm honest. :wink:

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:01 am
by Tricky
DaddyHoggy wrote:
Rese249er wrote:
DaddyHoggy wrote:
No. Planetoid...
I may be all of 22 years old, but when it comes to Pluto, I'm still old-fashioned.
He's not the best of Disney's creations if I'm honest. :wink:
Hanna-Barbera however recognized Bluto as a great character. :P

(My initial thought was to invoke [Wikipedia] Godwin's Law when I saw Disney, but then I realised that would just be a cheap joke. 8) )

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:28 am
by Cody
Tricky wrote:
Hanna-Barbera however recognized Bluto as a great character.
Which brings to mind Wimpy - I could murder a cheese-burger, at the moment!

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:03 am
by DaddyHoggy
El Viejo wrote:
Tricky wrote:
Hanna-Barbera however recognized Bluto as a great character.
Which brings to mind Wimpy - I could murder a cheese-burger, at the moment!
And if you could just lend me a dollar, I will gladly repay you Tuesday.

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Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:59 am
by Cody
DaddyHoggy wrote:
And if you could just lend me a dollar, I will gladly repay you Tuesday.
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<chortles> As it happens, I possess an old one-dollar bill that I've had for decades - I'll 'port it to you! <feeds note into the optical drive>

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:06 pm
by Rese249er
DaddyHoggy wrote:
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Sure it's not over 9000?

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:11 pm
by JazHaz
May I point out to any noobs here that this isn't likely to be an Oolite feature for quite some time! :twisted:

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:19 am
by PhantorGorth
DaddyHoggy wrote:
Rese249er wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
...But it's not a planet anymore. :twisted: So we're still unique! :mrgreen:
Pluto is SO a planet! :evil:
No. Planetoid. It fails to meet the criteria of having sufficient gravity to pull itself into a sphere. If Pluto got to stay in the planet club, then loads of planetoids since discovered, would have more of a claim than Pluto to planetary status, so they drew a line in the sand and made sure Pluto was on the wrong side of it...
Sorry, wrong DH. It's a "Dwarf Planet" and it is large enough to pull it into a sphere. The criteria it fails to be a full blown planet is "(c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit" as there are a lot more object in similar orbits nearby.

Full definition:

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A planet is a celestial body that 
    (a) is in orbit around the Sun, 
    (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and 
    (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit 
The definition of the Dwarf Planet is:

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A celestial body that 
    (a) is in orbit around the Sun, 
    (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, 
    (c) has not cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit, and 
    (d) is not a satellite.

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:36 am
by Rese249er
[joking]Is SO![/joking]

Re: A planet in a four-star system

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:10 am
by Cody
PhantorGorth wrote:
... has [not] cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit" as there are a lot more object in similar orbits nearby.
This may well prove a problem for the New Horizons probe, which is on its way there.