It's official - open source is virus-laden!
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Re: It's official - open source is virus-laden!
It's difficult to imagine open source software having anywhere near as much stealth functionality as the proprietary stuff. There are too many people remarkably clever people working on it I think.
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I wonder who paid disney to throw that in there - and just how much they were paid.
I really wouldn't take it too seriously anyway, when you consider the source .... Disney... I mean really, this is the same corporation that made native Americans look like simpletons on Peter Pan. I have a two year old son, and only about half of their work is remotely acceptable for him (their older movies are definitely the worst).
I really wouldn't take it too seriously anyway, when you consider the source .... Disney... I mean really, this is the same corporation that made native Americans look like simpletons on Peter Pan. I have a two year old son, and only about half of their work is remotely acceptable for him (their older movies are definitely the worst).
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I wonder if Billy has controlling stock.CommRLock78 wrote:I wonder who paid disney to throw that in there - and just how much they were paid.
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The biggest shareholder used to be Steve Jobs…
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Interesting... but obviously no longer the case. I wonder if Billy is the next runner-up.Ahruman wrote:The biggest shareholder used to be Steve Jobs…
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What open source developer / contributor would want to mar their reputation by doing such a thing ? It's totally preposterous. I only just now noticed your statement - right on the mark, Greyth . It is hard to imagine something like Compiz (or literally any other package for that matter) as having any stealth functionality at all, and if some jerk put some in, another developer would notice and promptly remove it. Free and open sauce is a beautiful and delicious thing - we owe a debt of gratitude to people like Richard Stallman (and many many many others as well - but it was his vision).Greyth wrote:It's difficult to imagine open source software having anywhere near as much stealth functionality as the proprietary stuff. There are too many people remarkably clever people working on it I think.
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I’m sorry, but this is entirely wrong. It is demonstrably easy to hide malicious behaviour in apparently innocuous code in mainstream languages (see, for instance, the Underhanded C Contest). Code review is of little value as a defence, and I suspect the vast majority of open source code actually receives very little review.CommRLock78 wrote:What open source developer / contributor would want to mar their reputation by doing such a thing ? It's totally preposterous. I only just now noticed your statement - right on the mark, Greyth ;). It is hard to imagine something like Compiz (or literally any other package for that matter) as having any stealth functionality at all, and if some jerk put some in, another developer would notice and promptly remove it.Greyth wrote:It's difficult to imagine open source software having anywhere near as much stealth functionality as the proprietary stuff. There are too many people remarkably clever people working on it I think.
This is not to say that there’s any good reason to believe it’s especially prevalent, but the idea that open source is immune to hidden malicious behaviours is simply ignorant.
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That's funny, I don't recall ever saying it was immune....Ahruman wrote:... but the idea that open source is immune to hidden malicious behaviours is simply ignorant.
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I contend that that’s exactly what you said, just in other words.CommRLock78 wrote:That's funny, I don't recall ever saying it was immune....
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Wrong. I said that mainstream packages are not going to have any kind of stealth abilities - and I stand by that, but I never once said that it was immune - ever, so don't put words in my mouth, dude. In fact I've said quite the opposite in another thread, so again, don't be putting your silly words in my mouth.Ahruman wrote:I contend that that’s exactly what you said, just in other words.CommRLock78 wrote:That's funny, I don't recall ever saying it was immune....
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And I couldn't resist fixing that for you!Selezen wrote:Remember, "friendliest board this side of Riedquat"!
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Reidquat - ancient Disan for "f***ing hard to spell"
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As it happens, it seems to be spelt thus in some Frontier fiction too.Selezen wrote:Reidquat - ancient Disan for "f***ing hard to spell" ;-)
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My apologies for being so brusque - it was a stressful start to the week, and I wasn't a fan of having my words twisted.
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