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Commander McLane wrote:

@ Eric: What about your Scoop Positions.oxp? I can't find it in the OXP list, and its positions are quite different from the ones in Oolite's shipdata.

That oxp had only 5 downloads in total and can still be downloaded when you would find the link . I also gave it a max_version of Oolite 1.74 because I intended to add those values into Oolite itself. The oxp was released in sept 2009 and I added scoop positions in Oolite on november 2009. I don't remember anymore but I assume I did some tests that resulted in the current Oolite values. Before it was also 0,0,0 for all internal ships and the current values are more close to that 0,0,0 than those in the oxp. Probably I didn't want to make the change not to drastic.

Scoop positions.oxp probably didn't work anyway. I just noticed that the plist is named 'shipdata-override.plist' instead of 'overrides'.

Svengali wrote:

Corny wrote:

It is indeed a bit poor sometimes. I mean, in the case of the laser, just stop firing. But when I'm scooping and I'm hearing "scoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoop active" every time, I'm thinking about just deleting the specific sound

See http://developer.berlios.de/feature/?fu ... up_id=3577.

That would require me to change it in the source and compile it myself since it's not implemented (yet), did I understand that right?

Corny wrote:

Svengali wrote:

Corny wrote:

It is indeed a bit poor sometimes. I mean, in the case of the laser, just stop firing. But when I'm scooping and I'm hearing "scoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoopscoop active" every time, I'm thinking about just deleting the specific sound

See http://developer.berlios.de/feature/?fu ... up_id=3577.

That would require me to change it in the source and compile it myself since it's not implemented (yet), did I understand that right?

It's a suggestion and request which, if the developers approve, will come in a future version of Oolite. I don't know whether the code is a first idea or a fully playtested, guaranteed-to-work and bug-free solution, or anything in-between. Therefore, while you certainly can copy it and compile your own version of Oolite containing this code, there are no guarantees that it (a) will work, and (b) won't break anything.

Keeping this caveat in mind, yes, you can use it to compile your own version of the game. You would at the same time become a guinea pig for testing it, which is good because tests are always needed.

Corny wrote:

That would require me to change it in the source and compile it myself since it's not implemented (yet), did I understand that right?

Yes. The code is running on my box for some days now and it looks good so far. The change relates the update for the sound to the duration of the soundfile.

[Quote=Ahruman] Fixed fuel scoops sound loop issue, discussed in https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11611[/Quote]

That's from the thread https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.ph ... 90#p172395

I'm running version 1.76.1, and I get continuous (repetitive) speech saying "Scoop Active, Scoop Active, Scoop Active", sometimes lasting minutes.
Always when scooping a cargo pod - or an escape capsule.
When sun skimming, it's fine. The speech cuts out when my tanks are full.

DeathKnyte wrote:

Ahruman wrote:

Fixed fuel scoops sound loop issue, discussed in https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11611

That's from the thread https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.ph ... 90#p172395

I'm running version 1.76.1, and I get continuous (repetitive) speech saying "Scoop Active, Scoop Active, Scoop Active", sometimes lasting minutes.
Always when scooping a cargo pod - or an escape capsule.
When sun skimming, it's fine. The speech cuts out when my tanks are full.

That should be working as expected then. The scoop sound loop issue mentioned above was that the sound was firing on every update of the game state, without any kind of check whether it had actually completed before restarting. This resulted in the "scoopscoopscoopscoop active" situation. Now, as long as the scoops are in operation, the sound plays, but it only restarts once it has completed its previous run.

If "scoop active" plays while the scoops are not active for whatever reason, then that would be a bug. However, I believe that in your case it's just some cargo pod that takes a while to get into the bay that is causing the sound to loop for minutes. If that is not the case and you can reproduce it somehow, please let us know.

ah, I see, another_commander.

Well, these pods can take like minutes before the scoop (and the associated voice )stops.
Sometimes, while I'm maneuvering around, the pod I thought was scooped, or as you say is taking a while to get into the bay, will float around my view screens.

Then, last night, while doing some experiments, another ship came along and started scooping some pods near me. While I watched him, the pod he was trying to get kept hovering just a few meters in front of him, even while he accelerated, turned, etc. It was amusing to watch, like a little fish trying to get away from a shark.

DK, when I come across a pod that's being uncooperative, I find it often helps to slow right down, or even stop. This gives the magnetic grapples a chance to do their thing, and as a rule the recalcitrant pod is aboard within seconds..

<nods sagely>

As a temporary solution, could you add another sound or just add a couple seconds of silence to the end of the file? That way you would hear, for example, "Scoop Active" and then a general soft whirring background noise representing the fuel scoops running. That way you would get the message, then you would get it again at say, a quarter of a minute to half a minute later (probably half a minute), to let you know the operation was still on going; rather than getting "Scoop Active" every 5 to 10 seconds.

I like that the 'scoop active' keeps repeating, if I'm trying to scoop pods.. it lets me know there's a problem and I need to slow down.

When listening to the Female RP voice I hear:

...Secret Sauce marked 'E'...

...Won Ton Food...

Maybe I am just hungry?

Escaping cargo pods probably should slow down enough to be caught while injecting even using an Anaconda. That's still pretty fast. If you could go that fast for 1 hour, even the system's star would seem pretty small from that distance.