Oolite Bulletins

Wildeblood wrote:

Maybe what I really want is a missile that can just be fired in a straight line, without needing the player to acquire the target first. A mine-missile, launch it as a mine, and as soon as it's launched it behaves like an unguided missile. Hmm...

• The lasers fired by the sub-entities to make the multiple laser won't be "owned" by the player. Not a problem for general NPC existence-adjustment, but for things like mission (where this.shipDied is used to see who made the kill for example) it will screw things as up as the killer entity won't be the player. Same problem exists with things like my Guardian Drones and Hired Guns, and can only partially be worked around.
• If the player ship has subentities, those also go towards defining the bounding box for collisions etc. The target drone and also the firing drones will need to be carefully positioned and instantly removed again after serving their purpose otherwise they'll collide with the player ship entity. And even using a frame callback it doesn't work to keep repositioning them a fixed distance from the player entity, at least if using fuel injectors or torus drive.

Thargoid wrote:

With regard to the greater topic, I can see two issues with the proposal:

• The lasers fired by the sub-entities to make the multiple laser won't be "owned" by the player. Not a problem for general NPC existence-adjustment, but for things like mission (where this.shipDied is used to see who made the kill for example) it will screw things as up as the killer entity won't be the player. Same problem exists with things like my Guardian Drones and Hired Guns, and can only partially be worked around.[/color]

{this.shipBeingAttacked = function(whom)
{
player.consoleMessage("Shot by" + whom + ".", 6);
};
this.shipDied = function(who)
{
player.consoleMessage("Killed by" + who + ".", 6);
};
}

Thargoid wrote:

[*]If the player ship has subentities, those also go towards defining the bounding box for collisions etc. The target drone and also the firing drones will need to be carefully positioned and instantly removed again after serving their purpose otherwise they'll collide with the player ship entity. And even using a frame callback it doesn't work to keep repositioning them a fixed distance from the player entity, at least if using fuel injectors or torus drive.[/list][/color]

Thargoid wrote:

It's an intriguing concept, but one that will still have some limitations to be worked around.

Ahruman wrote:

Don’t you have a boat to deliver or something rather than violating my poor, sensitive game?

Cmdr. Maegil wrote:

If anyone wishes to fool about with them silly ideas, please go right ahead (but don't be surprised when I nick your code )

CommonSenseOTB wrote:

Ahruman wrote:

Don’t you have a boat to deliver or something rather than violating my poor, sensitive game?

LMAO and passing out!

CommonSenseOTB wrote:

Cmdr. Maegil wrote:

If anyone wishes to fool about with them silly ideas, please go right ahead (but don't be surprised when I nick your code )

If you wish to fool about with, as you say, those silly ideas, please go right ahead. I want to see what you, yourself can come up with. On your own. I want you to succeed man, on your own merits, so just go for it!

CommonSenseOTB wrote:

Now here is where I have a slight issue and it is not specifically aimed at you. When a person wants something to be created and wants others to do it, and all the code as well. And gets offended when the whole community doesn't just drop what they are doing and come running to volunteer. And to top it off the person has no intention to learn and produce any unique code of thier own but consistantly wants others to do thier bidding.

The truth is, I've been behaving somewhat underhandedly, trying to squeeze my doubts on other threads and only making oblique questions. In any case, my ideas had matured enough that I was already trying to get some work done for show before starting to ask for more specific help.