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Micha: it needn't be that weird, it turns out. For, if you have the right shipdata in your 'plist', then - others have helped me to discover - all you need in JS is something likeMicha wrote:It occurs to me that simply requesting a way to set a ship to be a hulk via JS would be the way forward, instead of doing all sorts of weird things in JS?
Obviously only after MNSR...
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this.derelictShip = system.addShips("IST_derelict", 1, this.position, 4000);
Would it be worth just slightly expanding the scope of theMicha wrote:It occurs to me that simply requesting a way to set a ship to be a hulk via JS would be the way forward, instead of doing all sorts of weird things in JS?
Obviously only after MNSR...
abandonShip method so that ships both with and without escape pods are made derelict when it is called via JS. It currently does the job for ships with escape pods, but does nothing at all for ships without pods. makeDerelict([abandonShip : Boolean]). If sent with a true flag the ship will be made derelict and if it has pods they will be launched, if false it will just convert the ship to derelict status. Keep the existing abandonShip method for backwards compatibility.A derelict ship has no one on board, right? So, if no escape capsules are launched, someone must still be on board. How does it make sense to make a ship derelict that has not fired escape capsules? I must have missed something.Capt. Murphy wrote:Would it be worth just slightly expanding the scope of theMicha wrote:It occurs to me that simply requesting a way to set a ship to be a hulk via JS would be the way forward, instead of doing all sorts of weird things in JS?
Obviously only after MNSR...abandonShipmethod so that ships both with and without escape pods are made derelict when it is called via JS. It currently does the job for ships with escape pods, but does nothing at all for ships without pods.
Maybe a rename -makeDerelict([abandonShip : Boolean]). If sent with a true flag the ship will be made derelict and if it has pods they will be launched, if false it will just convert the ship to derelict status. Keep the existingabandonShipmethod for backwards compatibility.
The ship could be derelict if the crew has been killed? Their bodies might be on board, but the ship would be derelict still.CommonSenseOTB wrote:A derelict ship has no one on board, right? So, if no escape capsules are launched, someone must still be on board. How does it make sense to make a ship derelict that has not fired escape capsules? I must have missed something.
It's just really for convenience for OXP makers who want pre-existing derelicts spawned without having to define lots of derelict versions of ship models in shipdata. But maybeCommonSenseOTB wrote:A derelict ship has no one on board, right? So, if no escape capsules are launched, someone must still be on board. How does it make sense to make a ship derelict that has not fired escape capsules? I must have missed something.
Perhaps instead maybe some kind of spawnDerelict command would be better and avoid the possibility of one shot super weapons that disable an npc ship and turn it into a derelict. At the moment one can change the AI of the npc anyway to simulate such a weapon so why the need for a dedicated command?
system.addShipsAsDerelict with the same parameters as system.addShips would be a better option.I have had escorts bump into me quite a bit! Also, 'twould be good were escorts to follow one when one misjumps (- I believe they don't do that at present). Or at least that makes sense - er, I think - if the idea is that they follow through your wormhole.Capt. Murphy wrote:CommonSenseOTB wrote:Thargoid - you can giving 'flying rocks' a pilot (the escort contracts mother is a piloted 'flying rock') and keep them non-mass locking. The benefit being that the hired guns will then have some collision avoidance behaviour which they won't have at the minute.
@UK Eliter, umm, I never wrote that. Proofread your quotes please.UK_Eliter wrote:I have had escorts bump into me quite a bit! Also, 'twould be good were escorts to follow one when one misjumps (- I believe they don't do that at present). Or at least that makes sense - er, I think - if the idea is that they follow through your wormhole.Capt. Murphy wrote:CommonSenseOTB wrote:Thargoid - you can giving 'flying rocks' a pilot (the escort contracts mother is a piloted 'flying rock') and keep them non-mass locking. The benefit being that the hired guns will then have some collision avoidance behaviour which they won't have at the minute.
But if there is a way to do it with the current JS implementation I would prefer to do it now.Ah, yes: you didn't say that. Someone else - namely, Capt. Murphy - did. Sorry. I am still learning how the 'quote' function works, it seems. (I feel that it would help if we explicitly signed our posts. Still, the whole virtual-name-not-being-your-real-name makes things a bit complicated - in that it seems odd signing by my avatar. That in turn raises the question of why I don't sign by my actual name. . Anyway, sorry to have misquoted you.)'@UK Eliter, umm, I never wrote that. Proofread your quotes please.'
Because until the internet came along, we didn't realize how many stalkers and nut-jobs there are in the world.UK_Eliter wrote:That in turn raises the question of why I don't sign by my actual name.
@UK_Eliter: It's allright. Are you using the quote button? I find that it is easier to use the button and then cut away what you don't need, for me it's faster and reduces errors.UK_Eliter wrote:@CommonSenseOTB:
Ah, yes: you didn't say that. Someone else - namely, Capt. Murphy - did. Sorry. I am still learning how the 'quote' function works, it seems. (I feel that it would help if we explicitly signed our posts. Still, the whole virtual-name-not-being-your-real-name makes things a bit complicated - in that it seems odd signing by my avatar. That in turn raises the question of why I don't sign by my actual name. .) Anyway, sorry to have misquoted you.)'@UK Eliter, umm, I never wrote that. Proofread your quotes please.'
Ah yes, that will be it - largely, anyway.Wildeblood wrote:Because until the internet came along, we didn't realize how many stalkers and nut-jobs there are in the world.UK_Eliter wrote:That in turn raises the question of why I don't sign by my actual name.