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Should the UK leave the EU?

Yes
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31%
No
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58%
Don't know
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3%
Don't care
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Nothing to do with me, mate!
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Re: EU referendum

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Smivs wrote:
... total adult population of 63 million...
Que?

I think about 42 million were eligible to vote.
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Cody wrote:
Smivs wrote:
... total adult population of 63 million...
Que?

I think about 42 million were eligible to vote.
The 63 million is from wikipedia. You are probably right about the number on the electoral role. It still means most people want to remain in or aren't that bothered.
I do also question why 16/17 year olds were not entitled to vote, as they were in the Scottish referendum. This whole thing was about our future, and they are our future - they should have had a say!
How on Earth have we got into a situation where a clear minority have been able to determine this nation's future?
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How on Earth have we got into a situation where a clear minority have been able to determine this nation's future?
Happens in just about every general election - democracy in action!
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That, sadly, is very true. Democracy is badly broken. :(
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Smivs wrote:
Democracy is badly broken.
Perhaps... thing is, I don't see a better (viable, preferable) system out there.
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Well, nothing is perfect, but a thought-through version of PR would be good for most elections, and for referenda (not that we have many, thankfully) a clear majority of the electorate should be a minimum criterion.
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Time will tell if this was a good decision or not. As it stands the EU parliament in Brussels and especially it's leaders are living on a whole other planet than the citizens of Europe. The BREXIT is a clear sign that the EU has to be redesigned to face the multiple challenges we have in Europe at the moment. I'm not against the EU but I think the system is not working right at the moment. So I understand why people wanted out.
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Yeah, just our luck isn't it!
The Brexit will force Europe to look at itself again, and it will be improved into more like what it really should be. And of course we won't be there to benefit from it. :roll:
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Yeah, just our luck isn't it!
The Brexit will force Europe to look at itself again, and it will be improved into more like what it really should be. And of course we won't be there to benefit from it. :roll:
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The Brexit will force Europe to look at itself again, and it will be improved into more like what it really should be.
<grins> So it was our selfless duty to vote for Brexit in order to improve the lives of those within the EU?
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It probably should have been compulsory with over 50% registered population and advisory above a 50% vote.

If there's another Scottish referendum, they should poll the whole UK. If over 50% of the Scottish registered population vote to leave then it's leave; if the Scottish vote is over 50% then it goes to the whole UK vote.
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and now there is a petition for NO second referendum... https://www.change.org/p/house-of-commo ... ef=Default

thisone doesnt seem to have a lot of expectation.. looking for 1500 signatures...lol
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Some very interesting stuff is happening. It's becoming apparent that there are some BIG legal problems in pulling out - without getting too technical, it needs the consent of the Scottish Parliaments and Northern Ireland Assembly, the government don't have either.
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ffutures wrote:
Some very interesting stuff is happening. It's becoming apparent that there are some BIG legal problems in pulling out - without getting too technical, it needs the consent of the Scottish Parliaments and Northern Ireland Assembly, the government don't have either.
The referendum result is drawing attention to the complete mess of the constitutional arrangements of the "United" Kingdom, England & its colonies.

For many decades now the pommies have insisted that England and Scotland were two separate countries, refusing to bend their definition of a country to conform to the prejudices of the USA and UN. If that is so, there is no reason at all Scotland can't remain in the EU while England leaves. Nicola Sturgeon implying that Scotland would have to be "independent" of the UK to remain in EU is opportunistic bulldust. The Scots had their referendum; they wanted to remain an English colony, they were afraid to be an independent country. Now they have voted to remain in the EU. Independence isn't part of the Scottish psyche. The real parliament in London should abolish the Scottish parliament and outlaw the SNP.
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The knives are out in the Labour party! Corbyn got the Brexit which I suspect he really wanted, but his position may be dodgy now!
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