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Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:19 pm
by Smivs
Ha, don't talk to me about scaly finishes!

It's certainly not subtle, but that is sometimes good. And there is plenty of prior art - this Trans-Am being a nice (if OTT) example. :D

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Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:24 pm
by Disembodied
spud42 wrote:
what do you think? too much? might work if the pattern was smaller? or just a really bad idea?
Fine pattern details like this are only ever going to be seen, in-game, in the gallery. Which is fine, if that's what you want, but for 99% of actual encounters, it'll just look brown. Big, bold, and high-contrast patterns work best, I think: I'd say make the pattern much, much bigger!

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:32 pm
by spud42
bigger? not a problem... ha ha

took me 2 nights to figure out how to texture a model in wings! thats after the design flaw was spotted and fixed...

its not actually a Mulga snake skin but i only did a quick google for snakeskin .....and it is a brown snake after all...will try different size patterns and see how it looks. might not go for a snake skin after all.. you would not really see it in the actual game most of the time as Disembodied said. but hey someone was talking about a tartan ship!

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:40 am
by Diziet Sma
I like the look.. as to reducing the pattern size, I think I'd have to see it to be able to compare.

An actual mulga snake pattern probably wouldn't stand out as well, even though they look quite nice. There's a lot of variation, of course, but here's a good example:

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Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:27 am
by SteveKing
Looking at the picture that Diz posted, if you can get that red-yellow colour and colour proportion of a Mulga snake scale onto a scaley plate texture similar in size to Smiv's basic Moray rework, then it could look quite striking... er no pun intended :roll:

Also, so as not to infringe on the Moray's patented look, the scales could be more diamond in shape (as they are on the snake)

Just musing, as you would understand much better than me how much work that involves :D
spud42 wrote:
...but hey someone was talking about a tartan ship
Tartan can be quite blocky and contrasting, just ask the Bay City Rollers... oh, I see... OTT :P

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:50 am
by spud42
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now i know the scales are backwards but this is just to get an idea if this sort of thing would be better?

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:16 am
by Diziet Sma
spud42 wrote:
now i know the scales are backwards but this is just to get an idea if this sort of thing would be better?
I think it would be better.. not thrilled by the colour, but guessing that was just for the sake of a quick'n'dirty test?

If you could match the shape of the mulga's scales though (big job, I know) it would be brilliant.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:39 am
by Smivs
Way back, my Moray had fishy scales very much like these. See my post here on the Classic Ships thread for a pic and more info.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:12 pm
by spud42
6x9 Industries is proud to preview the new Mulga MKII soon to be released to the public.

Final tweaking will now occur after a series of test flights. All comments are welcome, please let us know what you think ?

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Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:55 am
by Diziet Sma
Nice.. lots of little details there I like, too.. good job, sir! 8)

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:30 am
by spud42
Thanks dizzy, it doesent have the details of the original but it was way too complex to UV unwrap!!

now i need help gentlr folk.

im stuck again at converting this into a .dat file.

I have installed python 2.7.9 , i have the obj2datTexNorm.py script and i have exported from wings as a.obj with a .mtl file.

I have put the script in the folder with the model and when i run the script it gives a windows error of python is not a recognised command.
this is what i typed python obj2datTexNorm.py Mulga.obj

i looked online and it said to add python to the environmebt variables and i did so but it didnt help.
win 7 64 bit..

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:10 pm
by Rorschachhamster
spud42 wrote:
python obj2datTexNorm.py Mulga.obj
Try this! :wink:

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:23 am
by spud42
Rorschachhamster wrote:
spud42 wrote:
python obj2datTexNorm.py Mulga.obj
Try this! :wink:
cheers, i copied the line directly from the source but now i cant find it . must have been a wiki page i got that from because i searched the forums and couldnt find where i got that... now lets hope that it works for me this time. i couldnt get it to work on the other ship.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:29 am
by spud42
I:\########\Program Files\wings3d_1.5.3\Mulga>obj2datTexNorm.py Mulga.obj
Mulga.obj -> mulga.dat
Material library file: Mulga.mtl
Material Cube1_auv -> Cube1_auv.png
File does not provide texture coordinates! Materials will not be exported.
Done.
ok not sure but i think this isnt going to work........ the error message i got when trying to comvert wings model to dat.

Re: Eagle transporter [WIP] and Mulga MkII

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:58 am
by Rorschachhamster
Try to do it again, from externalizing the texture to exporting to .obj in wings. This means, of course, I don't have a clue, but this worked for me more than once... 8) :lol:
Oh, and I would change the textures name into something like mulgatexture.png while externalizing, because of readability and compatibility with other oxps. If every oxp ship had that texture... :wink: