Oolite Bulletins

phkb wrote: ↑Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:17 pm

There are two questions that come out of this: (1) how did the escape pod get created with no insurance or bounty,

There are a few oxp's which I haven't maintained recently and probably don't work particularly well with the core changes since I wrote them. New Cargoes especially needs a ground-up rewrite to use the new commodity features (in the new Trade-goods.plist) properly (from https://cim.sotl.org.uk/games/).

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:41 am

If I understood correctly, he was most concerned about the legality of his various new cargoes.

phkb wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:42 am

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:41 am

If I understood correctly, he was most concerned about the legality of his various new cargoes.

That is my understanding as well. New Cargoes attempts to rework all the legal/illegal configuration by turning everything legal at base, and then applying legal penalties via code, essentially bypassing the core game code. But I don't know that the method used to nullify the illegal goods actually works, which means you could be double-pinged for any infringement.

And this is also one of the main reasons New Cargoes is incompatible with my Smugglers OXP, which is making goods illegal left, right and centre.

Nite Owl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:52 pm

My proposal is as follows.

 Smugglers

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:29 pm

Could it not be an option to have no customs check ... on arrival, but to have the check instead on selling the goods in the station market? Say, on leaving the F8 screen

Nite Owl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:52 pm

Not sure if this idea would fit in with Captain Murphy's original concept of this OXZ but here goes my thoughts anyway.

Slaves are a definite no-no. They should be freed or confiscated under any circumstance. Firearms and Narcotics on the other hand are a bit of a gray area that needs some momentary consideration on the part of a Commander. Oft times many tons of Firearms or Narcotics come my way through no fault of my own and these could be sold for some major profit as they are not illegal to import. Unfortunately if my hold also contains some Slaves then there is no choice but to free the Slaves and loose the profit on the other two. There is no other OXZ that handles Slaves in this manner so the choice of not using this OXZ is not an option.

My proposal is as follows. Add options to the Library Configuration of this OXZ so that choices can be made as to what goods are detected upon arrival at a GalCop affiliated station. Having looked at the JavaScript code this could be accomplished on my part with some major TWEAKS such as commenting out the large number of lines that reference the detection of Firearms and Narcotics. A possible solution but not an elegant one. Other players may want a variety of choices and such a TWEAKED version would not fit their needs nor be releasable. Adding said Library Configuration options is beyond my limited comment out and cut and paste coding abilities.

What do the rest of you Forumites think? phkb - would adding such options be something that you as the maintainer of this OXZ would be willing to undertake? Curious minds need to know. If all of this proves to be a bunch of hooey and bunk my attempts at commenting out the parts of the code not to my liking will commence forthwith. Well... after a bit of time has passed at least.

phkb wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:23 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:29 pm

Could it not be an option to have no customs check ... on arrival, but to have the check instead on selling the goods in the station market? Say, on leaving the F8 screen

GalCop Missions has a "Slave repatriation" mission type that, when available, asks you to purchase the slaves on the market and "release" them by completing the mission. At present, it only has a 10% chance of being available when there are slaves on the station. I could potentially make that 100%, so that if there are slaves on the station market, the mission will be available. I could also expand this to all GalCop-aligned stations, rather than just the main station, so each station has a separate mission, linked to the number of slaves in the market of that station.

Outside of that, it's certainly possible to intercept the sale/purchase of slaves and do something, or when leaving the F8 market screen. I'll need to get a clearer picture in my head of what interactions you're looking for. For instance, what is the trigger to start the interaction? Is it:
(a) If you leave the market screen with slaves in your hold (regardless of whether you purchased them there or not):
Or:
(b) if you purchase slaves on the market screen and leave the screen with them still in your hold

Then, what should happen? Immediately ask player if they want to release these slaves? Or have an F4 screen where the slaves can be released?
If we've immediately asked the player to make a choice, do we ping them at that point if they say No? If we do, what do we do about the penalty you get when you leave a station with slaves on board? Drop that entirely?

phkb wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:58 pm

You pretty much get what you're after by installing  Smugglers. It essentially removes firearms & narcotics from consideration by IGT, so that it can handle them independently. Or would you prefer not to run that OXP?