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UPS 1.5.5 minor stuff

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offered a mission and several small things in the mission screen text

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I am ben Rogerfer-Nailfire ...
Quonsoian Christmas documents ...
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pirates for a save transport ...
Lower case 'ben', not sure if intentional/can be fixed.
'Christmas' in the Oolite universe :?: interesting ... maybe allow other made-up festivities :D
something that made it through the spell checker: save -> safe

On a much funnier note (and perhaps a spoiler so others stop reading):

I like to 'milk' my Boas, get it on its own, fire away until it loses all power, yellow dot turns white, sometimes an escape capsule released. Final blast leaves all the containers tightly bunched and easy to scoop up, not forgetting the escape capsule. Upon arriving at Space Station the capsule's occupant, a certain Captain Walch, says 'thankyou for slipping me through customs', and no bounty reward. Grrr. And even more embarrassing the next couple of systems I visit I get various friendly messages from honest traders along the lines of 'great job with the Boa' and I feel like a heel, knowing he will soon be back in business
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White dots were so much easier to hit
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pirates for a save transport ... 
Fixed now.

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ben
That one is generated by Oolite. It is from a list of names. This one is the only spelled in lowercase from that list. Looking back, it was added somewhere between Oolite version 1.55 and 1.65, so it took a while before that one was spotted. :lol:
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Post by JensAyton »

It’s supposed to be lowercase – it’s a Semitic patronymic form (also ibn and bin in Arabic). It’s equivalent to the Mc[nom11] and O’[nom11] generators and the sen and son suffixes in [nom2].
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One possible fix is to generate a first name too. Having just the surname could lead to players think that the patronimic ben is short for Benjamin... :)
Hey, free OXPs: farsun v1.05 & tty v0.5! :0)
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Kaks wrote:
One possible fix is to generate a first name too. Having just the surname could lead to players think that the patronimic ben is short for Benjamin... :)
It already happens this way because it always is "ben [nom11]". I just use [nom] in my code. This generates:

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"nom" = "[nom1]"
"nom1" = "[nom1]-[nom11]"
The first [nom1] translates into (ben Rogerfer):

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"nom1" = "ben [nom11]"
"nom11" = "Roger[nom2]"
"nom2" = "f[nomvowelur]r"
"nomvowelur" = "e"
The second [nom11] into (Nailfire):

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[nom11] = "Na[nomvoweliy]l[nom2]"
"nomvowelie" = "i"
"nom2" = "f[nomvoweliy]re"
[nomvoweliy] = "i"
All adding up to: ben Rogerfer-Nailfire
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Kaks wrote:
One possible fix is to generate a first name too. Having just the surname could lead to players think that the patronimic ben is short for Benjamin... :)
Occasional confusion about weird futuristic names doesn’t really strike me as a problem that needs fixing.
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And just to add to the confusion, I know a couple of Israeli's who get rather annoyed if you spell their name with "ben" rather than "Ben"...
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Thargoid wrote:
And just to add to the confusion, I know a couple of Israeli's who get rather annoyed if you spell their name with "ben" rather than "Ben"...
Maybe we should add a new generator: nomben = ( "ben ", "Ben-", "bin ", "ibn ", "bint "); :-)
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BTW, what is the latest version of UPS Courier? This thread implies v.1.5.5, but I have 1.5.6 ?
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JazHaz wrote:
BTW, what is the latest version of UPS Courier? This thread implies v.1.5.5, but I have 1.5.6 ?
It is even 1.6.1 (see my sign.) and it needs Oolite 1.73.

1.6.1 is identical as 1.6.0 but with added code so it stops working with the next oolite version. Oolite 1.74 will have so many script changes that I want to release a new UPS version for it.
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Happy to update, and thanks to all for an interesting discussion.
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Ahruman wrote:
Maybe we should add a new generator: nomben = ( "ben ", "Ben-", "bin ", "ibn ", "bint "); :-)
Thinking about it, I'd lump 'Von ', 'von ', 'Van ', 'van ', 'Van der', 'De', 'De ', 'Du ', 'Da ', 'Di ', 'Di', 'Mac ', 'Mac', 'Mc', 'ap ' and 'Ap' with that lot too. :)

PS: How many more patronimics / nobiliary particles are there? I'm pretty sure I missed out on some!
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CheeseRedux wrote:
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:oops: yep, that one as well!
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