White flashers

Chaky · Post by **Chaky** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:13 pm

Possible?

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:49 pm

Been discussed before - simple answer "no" - I wanted black ones - not possible either

Post by **Cmdr James** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:28 pm

Assuming you dont mean black in the UV sense, what on earth is a black light flasher? One that flashes shadow?

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:41 pm

I wanted to create a ship that looked like it was being eaten (this is in the days before Griff's clever nibbling shaders demos) or transforming by creating a large black flasher that would pulse slowly and thus, against a background of mainly stars/black look like it was being eaten/regenerating - I was thinking of organic-B5-shadow like ships a long time ago - but no black flashers was the first stumbling block - I guess now I'll have to learn how to use the shaders (and how to model ships (and write OXPs...)etc, etc, etc)

Chaky · Post by **Chaky** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:44 pm

I wanted to put white ones as headlights..

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:48 pm

Well, flashers don't cast any additional light and if you've had chance to look over some of Griff's new ships you can see that his glow maps would do what you want (but still don't cast any additional light - I asked why a looooonnnnnng time agoand Ahruman bamboozled me with some techno-babble that I think boiled down to - "it's complicated and Oolite's not programmed graphical to cope with it")

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:41 pm

The simple answer is, in fact, yes. As of Oolite 1.73, subentities can be specified as dictionaries for greater flexibility.

Code: Select all

subentities =
(
    {
        type = flasher;
        color = whiteColor;
        position = (0, 0, 100);
        initially_on = yes;
        size = 10;
        frequency = 1;
        phase = 0;
    }
);

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:31 pm

Cool!

So, DaddyHoggy, when can we expect to see your eat-my-ship.oxp?

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:50 pm

Commander McLane wrote:
Cool!

So, DaddyHoggy, when can we expect to see your eat-my-ship.oxp?

…however, flashers (like lasers) can’t be black (or below 50% value in the HSV colour space). It wouldn’t work anyway; if you could set a flasher to black, it would just be invisible, since it uses additive blending.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:53 pm

...and still we won't see DH's first OXP!

Chaky · Post by **Chaky** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:54 pm

(Back to flashers)

I tried to make them glow (not flash) at their peak, but I'm confused here. If I set offset to 0.5 (which is supposed to be peak of sine), I get half-a-glow. Same for practically any value, while a flashing flashers are clearly brighter than non-flashing ones. (Offset is supposed to be brightness control for always-on-flashers, right?)

I'm talking about regular flashers. I still haven't tested this new flasher technique.

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:09 pm

Commander McLane wrote:
...and still we won't see DH's first OXP!

I have to pick what I'd like to do quite carefully to maintain this 100% non-achievement record!

Diziet Sma · Post by **Diziet Sma** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:22 am

DaddyHoggy wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
...and still we won't see DH's first OXP!
I have to pick what I'd like to do quite carefully to maintain this 100% non-achievement record!

Too late.. you blew that out of the water with your contributions to YAH..

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:59 am

Diziet Sma wrote:
DaddyHoggy wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
...and still we won't see DH's first OXP!
I have to pick what I'd like to do quite carefully to maintain this 100% non-achievement record!
Too late.. you blew that out of the water with your contributions to YAH..

Ah, but I don't count my contributions to YAH, or OSE, or Race Teams, or LH2 or the (potential) Banking oxps because they're not mine - I didn't start them, just chucked into the pot a little flavouring that's all

ovvldc · Post by **ovvldc** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:41 pm

Now, don't be coy, DaddyHoggy.