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What a blinder of a finale!

Didn't somebody suggest the Tardis as an NPC ship recently?
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Don`t spoil me, still have to watch it ...

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Oh, and concerning the TARDIS as a NPC ship:

Have a look here:

http://www.leebennett.force9.co.uk/ooli ... is.oxp.zip

Problem is, the TARDIS doesn`t do a lot but sitting around stations and getting itself destroyed (!?).

I think, it should be absolutely unique, probably do something interesting, have no weapons, but be equipped with an energy recharge rate of some millions and a million energy banks - anything else wouldn`t fit it.

Not even I would suggest players should be able to buy one :P

If someone wrote an AI for it and gave it something cool to do, there could be rumours in the space lanes & stations ... of an alien, called the Doctor ... who will never just attack you, but whom you should never, ever cross, too 8)

Perhaps a Dalek Invasion oxp? "Exterminate!!!" ...

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In all seriousness I was considering requesting some sort of Dalek fleet as an oxp. Then I though maybe the Thargoids fill that space anyway? But it would certainly be cool to have the Daleks turn up from time to time!

Oh and that finale.... wow! :D
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without spoiling anything...

The TARDIS's towing capability puts a hognose to shame... :)
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Greetings,

Given what the BBC did with regard to knitting patterns, I think I'd have military grade lawyers on hand if you coded an OXP with Daleks or the Tardis...
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Well ... the woman in question was selling her knitted TARDIS et al, while Oolite is freeware and its oxp are too.

So perhaps the naval lawyer poets can stay in the treeoids and eat violent sitcoms, multo bene!
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Lestradae wrote:
Well ... the woman in question was selling her knitted TARDIS et al, while Oolite is freeware and its oxp are too.
Actually, the news article says that she was releasing the knitting patterns for free, but people were e-Baying the finished product. So if someone OXP'd the TARDIS, and some mindless fool decided to sell a copy of Oolite with the TARDIS/Dalek OXP, then there could be trouble for Oolite and Giles.

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Captain Hesperus wrote:
Lestradae wrote:
Well ... the woman in question was selling her knitted TARDIS et al, while Oolite is freeware and its oxp are too.
So if someone OXP'd the TARDIS, and some mindless fool decided to sell a copy of Oolite with the TARDIS/Dalek OXP, then there could be trouble for Oolite and Giles.
Nah, I don't think so.
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It's not that we don't admire creativity from fans - most of the time, we take the view that if it's small-scale and not for profit, then we turn a blind eye.
Besides, though Oolite is a copyright infringement on itself, it's tolerated by Bell and Braben, having nothing to do with what people put on OXPs - and if 'someone' posts an OXP based on a temporary e-mail and 'vanishes' afterwards, the most BBC can do is request its removal... if they ever see it.

And yes, this is my known attitude to repressive behaviour - I nod, and go ahead anyway as soon as the authoritarian bastard turns his back.
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Anyway, if the BBC get shirty, we could always ask them if they ever paid any royalties to Gilbert Mackenzie Trench or his estate...
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See, Oolite is protected by the terms of the public licences, which protect the authors by protecting thier work from unaothorised use.

If Mazz had shoved the patterns under one of those or even just said "use these patterns however you like as long as you don't try and make any money out of it" then she would have been fine.
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Disembodied wrote:
Anyway, if the BBC get shirty, we could always ask them if they ever paid any royalties to Gilbert Mackenzie Trench or his estate...
Don't the BBC own the copyright image of the Police Box now? Hmm now I say it Im not sure but I think I read that somewhere.
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@dalek - not quite sure if this answrs your assumption!

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm//legal/decisio ... o33602.pdf

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dalek501 wrote:
Don't the BBC own the copyright image of the Police Box now? Hmm now I say it Im not sure but I think I read that somewhere.
Hum... from reading through (i.e. scrolling rapidly through, and reading the occasional paragraph of) the document DaddyHoggy links to, it would seem that the BBC do, at least insofar as having a spaceship/time machine shaped like a Police Box. But copyright-wise I think Selezen is probably right: the Creative Commons licence would demonstrate that it was not a commercial product. Anyway, we've got Millennium Falcons and TIE fighters and Constitution-class starships skittering around already. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb...
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We've also (or will have soon) the ships from Starfox and nintendo are another legally-twitchy organisation.

IANAL but the GPL must cover this as many have said before.

When I was even more sad and geeky than I am now (i.e. younger) and I was part of "Starfleet Command" and used to knock out Star Trek based stories using TNG ships, characters and place and using the Star Trek fonts and symbology we used to just plant the big "all of the TMs and (C)s of Paramount acknowledged, we're a not for profit..." etc, etc. And we never had a problem with Paramount.
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