Assassins guild - help pls!

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Assassins guild - help pls!

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Hi all,

used to play Elite on my old BBC C way back in the 80's - what a game!Orr

So glad to have found Oolite to bring back the memories - and loving the expansion packs bringing a huge new life to the game.

I've installed the assassins guild add in (via the oolite starter pack) - first mission to find Be Soin.....I've headed over to Orramaor....can see Apollodours.....but cannot find the Sunset retirement home (globe station) at all.

any hints / tips to help find the home???
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80's_Elite_player wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 am
used to play Elite on my old BBC C way back in the 80's - what a game!Orr

So glad to have found Oolite to bring back the memories - and loving the expansion packs bringing a huge new life to the game.

I've installed the assassins guild add in (via the oolite starter pack) - first mission to find Be Soin.....I've headed over to Orramaor....can see Apollodours.....but cannot find the Sunset retirement home (globe station) at all.

any hints / tips to help find the home???
Welcome to the friendliest bulletin boards this side of Riedquat!

Might you not be quite old enough?
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:53 am
80's_Elite_player wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 am
used to play Elite on my old BBC C way back in the 80's - what a game!Orr

So glad to have found Oolite to bring back the memories - and loving the expansion packs bringing a huge new life to the game.

I've installed the assassins guild add in (via the oolite starter pack) - first mission to find Be Soin.....I've headed over to Orramaor....can see Apollodours.....but cannot find the Sunset retirement home (globe station) at all.

any hints / tips to help find the home???
Welcome to the friendliest bulletin boards this side of Riedquat!

Might you not be quite old enough?
Thanks for the welcome :D

wasn't aware of an age criteria - how do I find out how old I am?
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80's_Elite_player wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 11:46 am
wasn't aware of an age criteria - how do I find out how old I am?
Huh! You're the trumble, not me!

Do you remember where you hatched?

What you were guzzling (Food? Furs? a manky morsel of mouldering machinery?)? Who the pilot was (did you eat him/her/it?)? Where the ship was off to?

Or - were you in a canister on a station somewhere?
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If your irruption into existence led to financial loss, then you might find evidence of the date (presuming you can remember any of the other details!) at the Galactic Supreme Court, luckily located in the very same galaxy which you are pootling around in. Just waltz over to Estiri and see what you can unearth!
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Presuming that the issues are not age-related, the usual way things are done here (sometimes they even work!) is to find the relevant wiki-page for the offending oxp (here: The Assassins Guild) and at the bottom of the page there is usually some sort of link to the relevant BB thread for that OXP here (again: see here). One then posts a missive indicative of the issue(s) at hand (or paw - or even fang).

The advantage of this, is that one is able to immediately attract the attention of the offending OXP writer who receives a tabarded pursuivant to direct his attention to your missive, incurring a heightened expectation of a (useful) response.

Alas, in the decades since Saint Giles achieved occultation, many such authors have been driven from the Eight by the Witchspace Lobster into unendurable limbo in a hell called "RealLife™". But miracles do happen!

But Littlebear who, on his return from that limbo, decided to update his Guild, does scan these boards regularly and should spot your aptly entitled addition to our Boards.
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80's_Elite_player wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 am
any hints / tips to help find the home???
Sorry. You were after tips.

Have you tried an Advanced Space Compass (Vanilla game equipment)? Or an "extended" Telescope (OXP equipment)?
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:13 pm
If your irruption into existence led to financial loss, then you might find evidence of the date (presuming you can remember any of the other details!) at the Galactic Supreme Court, luckily located in the very same galaxy which you are pootling around in. Just waltz over to Estiri and see what you can unearth!
hmmm - intriguing! I shall pootle off to Estiri and see what's apppertaining :)

will report back shortly 8)
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:58 pm
Presuming that the issues are not age-related, the usual way things are done here (sometimes they even work!) is to find the relevant wiki-page for the offending oxp (here: The Assassins Guild) and at the bottom of the page there is usually some sort of link to the relevant BB thread for that OXP here (again: see here). One then posts a missive indicative of the issue(s) at hand (or paw - or even fang).

The advantage of this, is that one is able to immediately attract the attention of the offending OXP writer who receives a tabarded pursuivant to direct his attention to your missive, incurring a heightened expectation of a (useful) response.

Alas, in the decades since Saint Giles achieved occultation, many such authors have been driven from the Eight by the Witchspace Lobster into unendurable limbo in a hell called "RealLife™". But miracles do happen!

But Littlebear who, on his return from that limbo, decided to update his Guild, does scan these boards regularly and should spot your aptly entitled addition to our Boards.
Thanks also for this.....I did also PM littlebear on the off chance of a response too :)
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 12:13 pm
If your irruption into existence led to financial loss, then you might find evidence of the date (presuming you can remember any of the other details!) at the Galactic Supreme Court, luckily located in the very same galaxy which you are pootling around in. Just waltz over to Estiri and see what you can unearth!
got to Estiri - found the naval base (the Nemeanian base) - but it wont let me in - won't issue docking instructions and if I try force land / dock - it's game over....
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It has to be pretty ghastly trying to cope as a Trumble when everyone else wants to fry you alive. I'm sorry.

Have you ever considered having your brain implanted in a different body? A total transpecistic transition might make your life rather easier - no more need to avoid barbecues like the plague! Disembodied is our expert on the subject and I'm certain would be happy to give you a few tips!

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I think, from your comment that you'd used the Oolite Starter that you have installed the old (2007) version of the Assassins Guild. This will no longer work on modern Oolite. The 2025 working version (The Assassins Guild Rebooted) is currently available in OXP format from the Wiki, but isn't yet on the expansion manager or Oolite Starter. If you follow the link in my signature it will take you to the Wiki Page with the download link. You'd need to install the Rebooted edition as an OXP and remove the old version.

Does the planet Apollodours look like it does in the screenshot below? If it doesn't then you have got the old version installed. The Sunset Retirement Home has a beacon, so you can find it with your Advanced Space Compass (as shown in the screen shot).

Note: If you have both versions installed, then the Assassins Guild Rebooted won't run (so only the old version will be running). If you have already installed the rebooted version as an OXP, then removing the old 2007 version should get it running.

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Thanks Littlebear - defo looks like I have the old version installed - Apollodours is very blue on my screen and looks nothing like your screen shot - problem solved I think.

appreciate your help on this - will do some uninstalling and re-installing - thanks! :D
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reinstall of the right version has done the trick!

many thanks to all.

Can't wait to get stuck into the missions!
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No problem. As per Cholmondely's spot in the main thread, there was a bug (missing ; on the last line of the shipdata file) which meant the OXP worked fine on Windows but not on the Mac. Version 2.4 fixing this is now on the Wiki Page.
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