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Re: Alien Systems OXZ

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Redspear wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:11 am
Belated credit to phkb for help with the script. Thanks 👍
Oh! Um, you’re welcome!
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Cholmondely wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:07 am
And that's why it's good that we're a community
Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Ontimaxe...

Today's episode was brought to you by the commodity 'narcotics' and by the career 'piracy'!

Please forgive the facetiousness Cholmondely, I quite agree.

phkb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:36 pm
Oh! Um, you’re welcome!
Helped me to get my head around timers (and subsequntly up to all kinds of mischief :P )
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Re: Alien Systems OXZ

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Redspear - I just stumbled across this:
Potential Debris wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:19 am
I like the idea of Limo missions...

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[Name] is seeking a [adjective], [adjective] ride to [destination] in [system] for a party to [celebrate] [his/her/its] forthcoming [event]. [Cargo] should be provided, payment will be [price] on arrival.

[adjective] loud, brash, noisy, ostentatious, offensive, pretentious, ridiculous, bangin', crazy, wicked, hoopy, irritating, over-the-top, expensive, tasteless, shiny {Please help flesh out these lists}

[destination] Peppermint HippOO, Hoopy Casino, HoOoOters, roam around space indefinitely in a perpetual party {payment per system visited as long as they are aboard} {I'm guessing most destination venues would be planetside, requiring planetfall.oxp to be installed.}

[event] wedding, divorce, senior prom, Bar Mitzvah, birthday, spawn-cycle, adult gland inflation, symbiotic conjoinment, symbiotic host rejection, euthanasia, release from rehab

[cargo] 1 ton liquor/ wines, 1 ton food, 1 ton recreational substances. {providing narcotics for this purpose would run you a risk of getting in trouble with GalCop.} {Regardless of the contract requirements, ALL booze, food and drugs in cargo will eventually be consumed by the party, perhaps 1 ton per hour of gametime or something like that}

- Hoopy casinos would be an obvious destination for some of these parties, but presumably that would require modifications to that OXP.

- If you dock at a seedy space bar with a party in the back, there's a chance they'll pay you and debark without realising they're at the wrong place. If you're quick, you can launch again before they realise their mistake. This will affect your limo-driving rep, probably negatively but possibly positively (as it turns out, they had a great night out at the SSB!).

- Sometimes when you dock, you will find that your customers have made a huge mess in the back of your limo, and you'll have to get it valetted. Whether or not they have made a mess you get the chance to ask them for a clean up fee. If they refuse, you get the chance to "insist" that they pay a clean up fee. These things may or may not negatively affect your limo-driver rep depending on (a) whether or not they really made a mess (b) how drunk they are (liquor and narcs consumed) and (c) a random factor.

- When your rep gets high enough you can get some "classier" limo jobs for a slightly more sober class of customer, as suggested earlier in the thread (laughed at the Dumb and dumber references=-) However they often tend to be criminals and mob bosses, so although you don't have to put up with the music and vomit any more, you might have to deal with assassins, requests for slaves as well and booze and drugs and somewhat more severe consequences if you displease a customer (arrive late, try to con them out of cleanup money).
Comments wanted:
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Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:36 pm
Redspear - I just stumbled across this:
Thanks. I've had similar ideas myself and then there have been the various taxi oxps. However, any mini-missions are likely to be a little further down the line with this one. Lots to add before that... hopefully :mrgreen:
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Re: Alien Systems OXZ

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Redspear wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:29 pm
Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:36 pm
Redspear - I just stumbled across this:
Thanks. I've had similar ideas myself and then there have been the various taxi oxps. However, any mini-missions are likely to be a little further down the line with this one. Lots to add before that... hopefully :mrgreen:
Not my point - it's more vocab for Alienating more systems! I just prefer to give the context as well...
Comments wanted:
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Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm
Not my point - it's more vocab for Alienating more systems! I just prefer to give the context as well...
Oh, I see, you mean the highlighted text? Apologies, your tendency to quote en masse threw me :D
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Re: Alien Systems OXZ

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Redspear wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:52 pm
Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm
Not my point - it's more vocab for Alienating more systems! I just prefer to give the context as well...
Oh, I see, you mean the highlighted text? Apologies, your tendency to quote en masse threw me :D
I think it is always important to give context. And some of the rest of that post is also thought-provoking!



Another idea: How about adding increased chances for spawning ships from species relevant OXPs in those systems?

*Hognose Missionaries: more Witchspace Lobster missionaries in Lobstoid systems (and how about some with better shields, lasers and accuracy - just for those systems - makes visiting them more dangerous if you are not lobstoid yourself - you could include a check on the player's species as entered in Library.OXP's PAD). This could make visiting Lobstoid worlds equivalent to visiting anarchies!

*Oresrians: if we had an update for this one, they could be added to some of the Insectoid worlds as a confusion.

Question: to what extent can we change things according to system distance in Oolite? Can we give a 100% chance of encountering Oresrians in Oresri and reduce the chances by distance for neighbouring systems?

NB: The listed inhabitants of Oresri are rodents, so the Oresrians must be a minor species on Oresri. Presumably the original indigenes from their name. Other systems with related names are in G8 (Oresreat & Oresrati).
Comments wanted:
Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:09 am
Another idea: How about adding increased chances for spawning ships from species relevant OXPs in those systems?
I've considered that since my very first on these boards some 10 years ago ?

Cholmondely wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:09 am
to what extent can we change things according to system distance in Oolite? Can we give a 100% chance of encountering Oresrians in Oresri and reduce the chances by distance for neighbouring systems?
I don't see why it can't be done proportionately. Distance to system of origin or difference between system coordinates = probability chance within a condition script.

I've stalled on either of those approaches as it's easier to be heavy handed than not. More interesting for me is the limit some ships to system I habitants via the shipyard (e.g. only for sale in Rodent systems).
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  • v 0.2 available https://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/2/ ... ystems.oxz
    • includes music by P.A.Groove/Blurred Vision for non-colonial systems and... one or two other locations (it's two, two locations)
    • additional messages upon arrival into the system
    • messages dwell a little longer for readability
    • some (old) typos addressed thanks to the Cholster
Special thanks to P.A.Groove/Blurred Vision (formerly of these boards) for the use of his atmospheric music (one piece of which is currently stuck in my head).

These tracks were formerly used for earlier versions of famous planets but removed for later versions and so are now back in the game.

Check out his bandcamp page here https://pagrooveblurred.bandcamp.com/album/peace-park

It's swollen up to 27MB now but there's still so much I want to add, thus it's 0.2, not 1.2.
Anyway, it's here and it works (or it did 5 minutes ago) and I hope some of you enjoy it... (awaits inevitable game of spot the typo).
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Re: Alien Systems OXZ

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Redspear wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:27 pm
Special thanks to P.A.Groove/Blurred Vision (formerly of these boards) for the use of his atmospheric music (one piece of which is currently stuck in my head).
Redspear, did you actually manage to get a response from him?
Comments wanted:
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Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Cholmondely wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:08 am
Redspear, did you actually manage to get a response from him?
Yes. I explained my request and he was kind enough to grant permission.
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