Oolite.org down?

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Re: Oolite.org down?

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arquebus wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:27 pm
I'm personally not particularly concerned whether we get it or not (solutions are in place, switching back itself would be a minor hassle)
yeah... at the moment (IMHO) there is simply not enough time for development, and the technical resources are all available...
oolite.org just is our history...
arquebus wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:27 pm
but I do have to wonder if there's a way to know if one of "us" has the (current) high bid.
maybe someone confesses, I have no bids there )

Of course, if the community acted as one, it would be possible to make a high bid,
but really don't want to feed the f@$%n cybersquatters... :evil:
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Re: Oolite.org down?

Post by Cholmondely »

Gentlemen!

and any ladies who might be out there!

What do we wish to do about this auction?



I can see three options.

Option 1: Let the bidding proceed and accept the eventual loss of our website address.

Option 2: Buy it back

Option 3: Buy it back just for one year which we use to redirect everything to Timer's new "Oolite.space" site.



Issues

• Feeding the cybersquatters (argument for option 1)

• All the old links dotted around the web which proclaim oolite.org as our download site (only wikipedia has so far been corrected: argument against option 1)

• Correcting older already downloaded versions of Oolite's Expansions Manager to the new site (how many thousands are out there? argument against option 1)

• Correcting the link on the current downloadable versions of Oolite v.1.90 (has this already been done? I presume from Arquebus that this might not be the case)



I'm perfectly happy to contribute to buying back oolite.org if that becomes our consensus.
Reference: Current state of play (https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/3028074/oolite.org)
Bid History

Bidder - Bid - Date

t_b_2c47d7 - $23.00 - 05/10/2023 8:54am CDT
g_l_fc85b1 - $10.99 - 05/10/2023 5:23am CDT
j_x_26ed9c - $9.99 - 05/10/2023 3:11am CDT
s_b_faaf36 - $8.99 - 05/09/2023 4:50pm CDT
g_r_01ce38 - $8.99 - 05/09/2023 4:50pm CDT
s_b_faaf36 - $7.99 - 05/09/2023 2:27pm CDT
c_r_f21a93 - $6.99 - 05/09/2023 2:19pm CDT
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nobody at home )))

well... awaiting a week...
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I did not place a bid yet but set an alarm for the current end of auction so I can. I don’t trust these domain bidding platforms enough to already now disclose interest by placing a bid early.
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timer wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:12 pm
Of course, if the community acted as one, it would be possible to make a high bid,
but really don't want to feed the f@$%n cybersquatters... :evil:
Quite.

If it comes to 'us' making a bid then I'd chip in. I'm not committing to an amount but it'd be something.
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Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 1:39 pm
timer wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:12 pm
Of course, if the community acted as one, it would be possible to make a high bid,
but really don't want to feed the f@$%n cybersquatters... :evil:
Quite.

If it comes to 'us' making a bid then I'd chip in. I'm not committing to an amount but it'd be something.
How could we achieve pooling?
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Ok, one way or another we will try to buy our domain )

We need to decide - how much TOTAL we are ready to give to cybersquatters (reasonable limits) ...
Making bets individually is not very effective. The most obvious option: everyone who wants to take part - transfers to one person on the card, and he makes a bet - but this is probably difficult to implement, because everyone has different banks and countries.
Another option - someone buys within the maximum amount that he himself determines (as reasonable), and then those who wish to compensate (then there will be time to find a way to transfer) part of the expenses for him ... or not :twisted:

If there is someone among us who does not have such a difficult path as me (through friends),
and he is full of enthusiasm - welcome )

waiting - what will happen, maybe in a week the rates will be $1000+ :?

We still have time to discuss...
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Personal view: a contribution yes, feeding cybersquatters no!
I would advise stilts for the quagmires, and camels for the snowy hills
And any survivors, their debts I will certainly pay. There's always a way!
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timer wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:01 pm
My personal opinion is the upper reasonable limit is $300 anyway
Sorry, I wouldn't go anywhere near that (even collectively) unless it were 30+ of us :|

Cody wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:20 pm
Personal view: a contribution yes, feeding cybersquatters no!
maik wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 5:24 am
I don’t trust these domain bidding platforms enough to already now disclose interest by placing a bid early.
If someone wanted to research likely interest then this board might be an obvious target, meaning that anything we type here...

arquebus wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 4:27 pm
I'm personally not particularly concerned whether we get it or not (solutions are in place
This appears to be true, right?
Do we really need a .org?
.space is fine (.game might have been nice).
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Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:26 pm
Sorry, I wouldn't go anywhere near that (even collectively)
With you there!

Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:26 pm
If someone wanted to research likely interest then this board might be an obvious target, meaning that anything we type here...
Indeed!
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Cody wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 7:09 pm
Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:26 pm
Sorry, I wouldn't go anywhere near that (even collectively)
With you there!

Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:26 pm
If someone wanted to research likely interest then this board might be an obvious target, meaning that anything we type here...
Indeed!
So it's agreed: we definitely won't be bidding then! :wink: :wink:
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Redspear wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 7:29 pm
So it's agreed: we definitely won't be bidding then! :wink: :wink:
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Cholmondely wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 9:21 am
• Correcting the link on the current downloadable versions of Oolite v.1.90 (has this already been done? I presume from Arquebus that this might not be the case)
Actually there is a really interesting commit
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... 0255433d46

which has already made it into the prerelease version
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... tag/latest

So it would be up to users to test and enjoy.
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The timestamps of those bids are interesting. Someone really wants it - and personally, I think they can have it!
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Cody wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 10:21 am
The timestamps of those bids are interesting. Someone really wants it - and personally, I think they can have it!
I totally agree, yet feel a bit sad that a number of email addresses actually end with "@oolite.org". They will all be void now, if they ever existed.
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