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JazHaz · Post by **JazHaz** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:29 am

maik wrote:
Follow-up: We're setting up the wiki on another one of Winston's servers now, which is more reliable. Once everything works fine in the copy he will switch over the DNS record so that the URL points to the new copy. The whole procedure will take some days as both he and I are mostly busy with work at the moment.

DNS changes also take a few days to percolate through the system.

maik · Post by **maik** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:07 am

JazHaz wrote:
maik wrote:
Follow-up: We're setting up the wiki on another one of Winston's servers now, which is more reliable. Once everything works fine in the copy he will switch over the DNS record so that the URL points to the new copy. The whole procedure will take some days as both he and I are mostly busy with work at the moment.
DNS changes also take a few days to percolate through the system.

Honestly, I don't know in this case. When you are changing the DNS entry for a top-level domain this is correct as the DNS systems of internet providers have to be updated. But in this case the providers' DNS will continue to point to Winston's alioth.net domain. There he runs his own DNS which resolves the subdomain. So I hope that this change would be immediate.

and more · Post by **cim** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:02 pm

maik wrote:
JazHaz wrote:
maik wrote:
Follow-up: We're setting up the wiki on another one of Winston's servers now, which is more reliable. Once everything works fine in the copy he will switch over the DNS record so that the URL points to the new copy. The whole procedure will take some days as both he and I are mostly busy with work at the moment.
DNS changes also take a few days to percolate through the system.
Honestly, I don't know in this case. When you are changing the DNS entry for a top-level domain this is correct as the DNS systems of internet providers have to be updated. But in this case the providers' DNS will continue to point to Winston's alioth.net domain. There he runs his own DNS which resolves the subdomain. So I hope that this change would be immediate.

Well, there's likely to be local caching of the subdomain resolution, to avoid doing a DNS lookup on every single request, but as Winston runs that he can set the TTL right down to a few minutes a couple of days before making the change. Still, might take a while for every cache to completely update.

maik · Post by **maik** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:21 pm

Thanks, cim.

Further information regarding the move: You can edit the normal wiki as long as you want. Once we're ready I'll put the wiki in read-only mode and then synchronize all the edits to the new wiki. Once this is done, Winston changes the DNS entry and we shut down the (then) old wiki.

Apart from the wiki residing on a different server there should not be any other change.

here · Post by **Fatleaf** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:20 pm

Joy of joys, it's down again

Where's a Wizard when you need one?

SandJ · Post by **SandJ** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:22 pm

Fatleaf wrote:
Joy of joys, it's down again

Not for me, it's not.

here · Post by **Fatleaf** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:25 pm

SandJ wrote:
Fatleaf wrote:
Joy of joys, it's down again
Not for me, it's not.

Must be just for Scotland!

EDIT: It's working now in Scotland

here · Post by **Fatleaf** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:47 pm

Scotland has run out of Wiki!

maik · Post by **maik** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:49 pm

Fatleaf wrote:
Scotland has run out of Wiki!

Slovenia hasn't

Website · Post by **Cody** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:50 pm

Fatleaf wrote:
Scotland has run out of Wiki!

It's an early taste of independence, Leafy!

SandJ · Post by **SandJ** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:50 pm

The dynamic ships page - wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Dynamic_Ship_List_(Oolite) - won't load and hasn't worked for about 20 minutes, possibly longer. Everything else seems fine.

(Symptoms just like the OXP List when it wouldn't load.)

here · Post by **Fatleaf** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:59 pm

El Viejo wrote:
Fatleaf wrote:
Scotland has run out of Wiki!
It's an early taste of independence, Leafy!

>Chuckles<

But I really hope that never happens.

SandJ · Post by **SandJ** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:28 pm

SandJ wrote:
The dynamic ships page - wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Dynamic_Ship_List_(Oolite) - won't load and hasn't worked for about 20 minutes, possibly longer. Everything else seems fine. (Symptoms just like the OXP List when it wouldn't load.)

I want to know how the transclusionificated Dragon ships appear on this list, but this page is not responding.

maik · Post by **maik** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:45 pm

SandJ wrote:
SandJ wrote:
The dynamic ships page - wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Dynamic_Ship_List_(Oolite) - won't load and hasn't worked for about 20 minutes, possibly longer. Everything else seems fine. (Symptoms just like the OXP List when it wouldn't load.)
I want to know how the transclusionificated Dragon ships appear on this list, but this page is not responding.

It seems the server is too slow for creating the list within 60 seconds, so it times out after the CPUs have been burning for 60 seconds. I'll ask Winston to increase the limit again and then I think we will have to look into installing a cache for the MediaWiki...

For the time being, I limited the results list to 100 entries so it displays again and you can see the Dragon entries.

SandJ · Post by **SandJ** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:51 pm

maik wrote:
For the time being, I limited the results list to 100 entries so it displays again and you can see the Dragon entries.

Ta muchly.

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