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Missile launch positions on Thargoids in 1.76.0.4675

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Installed the current nightly, 1.76.0.4675, and was testing the new Enhanced Misjump OXP by cim, which works very well.

Got to interstellar space, surrounded by Thargoids and the Navy. Got destroyed as normal! :oops:

Checked my log, found the following errors:

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13:10:08.984 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-5778.29, -3755.24, -3478.65) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:10.171 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-6008.06, -3670.71, -3482.42) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:12.953 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-6619.03, -3541.26, -2988.17) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:14.296 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-6664.67, -3619.77, -2482.9) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:16.109 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-6322.07, -3850.83, -1918.95) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:16.796 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-4878.13, -4620.82, 1960.4) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:18.265 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-5825.08, -4105.93, -1379.5) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:19.984 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe5e34c0>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-5412.14, -4290.62, -911.441) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:23.343 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-4006.76, -5675.27, 667.237) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:24.843 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3978.61, -5854.47, 364.403) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:25.015 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3974.9, -5877.28, 326.127) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:26.296 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3954.19, -6037.23, 41.8371) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:26.875 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3945.98, -6107.7, -86.8239) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:27.156 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3943.67, -6131.78, -133.282) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
13:10:27.578 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0xe165640>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-3940.15, -6168.09, -203.113) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.
EDIT: note that these are standard Thargoids, and not ones enhanced by an OXP (as far as I am aware).
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Re: Missile launch positions on Thargoids in 1.76.0.4675

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Err, no. The Only thargoids in trunk are Thargoid Warship & Thargoid Robot Fighter. Thargoid Battleship is from an OXP.
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Kaks wrote:
Err, no. The Only thargoids in trunk are Thargoid Warship & Thargoid Robot Fighter. Thargoid Battleship is from an OXP.
Phew! That's a relief then!

Now thinking it might be GalNavy. Will investigate.
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You will find the Battleship is from Thargorn Threat. Check you have the latest update 1.5. If not replace the

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"missile_launch_position" = "0, 0, -25.5";
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 "missile_launch_position" = "0.0 -46.0 91.0";
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Fatleaf,

Not sure this change will fix it. I have version 1.5 loaded and I have checked shipdata.plist the value of
"missile_launch_position" is set to "0.0 -46.0 91.0" the only place that 0.0 0.0 -25.5 appears is
"aft_eject_position" = "0.0 0.0 -25.5";

Yet I am seeing
15:24:16.093 [ship.missileLaunch.invalidPosition]: ***** ERROR: The missile_launch_position defines a position (0, 0, -25.5) behind the <ShipEntity 0x11691010>{"Thargoid Battleship" position: (-7588.24, -2147.2, 435.136) scanClass: CLASS_THARGOID status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT}. In future versions such missiles may explode on launch because they have to travel through the ship.

I wonder whether there is another OXP with a Thargoid Battleship.

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I think the older versions of Thargorn Threat had the missile launch position as 0, 0, -25.5. It was something that was changed a while ago. I used to get those errors all the time and once I updated the oxp they stopped. As far as I am aware there is no another OXP with a Thargoid Battleship. But I could be wrong of course!

EDIT: If you look at the history in the Wiki it states it fixed the wrong launch position.
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Interesting I have just made the following change in Thargorn Threat version 1.5

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	"thargoid_battleship" = {
		"aft_eject_position" = "0.0 -46.0 91.0";  // changed this from 0.0 0.0 -25.5
and replayed the scenario. No errors about missile launches, this is very odd -- is this actually an error in Oolite itself where the wrong value is being tested.

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Did you fight with them. I used to go into interstellar space quite a lot. So there was loads of them. And it would soon show up with all that activity. I wonder if JazHaz is using the latest update or an older one.
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I don't have Thargorn Threat, but I do have Galactic Navy, and there is a Thargoid Battleship in that OXP.
Fatleaf wrote:
I think the older versions of Thargorn Threat had the missile launch position as 0, 0, -25.5. It was something that was changed a while ago. I used to get those errors all the time and once I updated the oxp they stopped. As far as I am aware there is no another OXP with a Thargoid Battleship. But I could be wrong of course!
You're wrong! :twisted:

I wonder if GalNavy copied the model from TT and inherited the incorrect launch position.
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From GalNavy's shipdata.plist:

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	<key>galnav-thargbatship</key>
	<dict>
		<key>name</key>
		<string>Thargoid Battleship</string>
		<key>ai_type</key>
		<string>galnav-thargoidAI.plist</string>
		<key>laser_color</key>
		<string>greenColor</string>
		<key>bounty</key>
		<integer>500</integer>
		<key>max_energy</key>
		<real>2000</real>
		<key>energy_recharge_rate</key>
		<real>5</real>
		<key>has_ecm</key>
		<real>1</real>
		<key>max_flight_pitch</key>
		<real>0.6</real>
		<key>max_flight_roll</key>
		<real>1.8</real>
		<key>max_flight_speed</key>
		<real>450</real>
		<key>thrust</key>
		<real>45</real>
		<key>forward_weapon_type</key>
		<string>WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER</string>
		<key>aft_weapon_type</key>
		<string>WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER</string>
		<key>max_missiles</key>
		<integer>8</integer>
		<key>missiles</key>
		<integer>8</integer>
		<key>missile_role</key>
		<string>thargon</string>
		<key>missile_launch_position</key>
		<string>0.0 0.0 -25.5</string>
		<key>aft_eject_position</key>
		<string>0.0 0.0 -25.5</string>
		<key>model</key>
		<string>galNavy_thargoid_battleship2.dat</string>
		<key>subentities</key>
		<array>
			<string>galnav-thargoid_turret_150 -67 0 0 		1 0.0 1 0.0</string>
			<string>galnav-thargoid_turret_150 0 0 -67 		1 0.0 -1 0.0</string>
			<string>galnav-thargoid_turret_150 0 0 67 		-1 0.0 1 0.0</string>
			<string>galnav-thargoid_turret_150 67 0 0 		- 0.0 -1 0.0</string>
			<string>galnav-thargoid_turret 0 15 0 		1 1 0 0</string>
		</array>
		<key>scan_class</key>
		<string>CLASS_THARGOID</string>
		<key>scanner_range</key>
		<real>70000</real>
		<key>roles</key>
		<string>galnav-thargbatship thargoid-mothership galactic-navy-thargoid GN_sortie_target</string>
		<key>script</key>
		<string>galNavyTarget-Sortie.js</string>
		<key>script_info</key>
		<dict>
			<key>score</key>
			<string>3</string>
		</dict>
	</dict>
Does this look like the same ship copied from TT?
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Is it 5.4.3? I have never noticed Gal Navy having a Thargoid Battleship before :oops:

That has the missile launch position and the aft eject position as the same. I have not had these errors since updating Thargorn Threat! Strange...

Here is Thrgorn Threat Battleship.

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"thargoid_battleship" = {
		"aft_eject_position" = "0.0 0.0 -25.5";
		"aft_weapon_type" = "WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER";
		"ai_type" = "thargoidAI.plist";
		bounty = 350;
		"energy_recharge_rate" = 5.5;
		"escort_role" = "thargoid-escort";
		escorts = 2;
		"forward_weapon_type" = "WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER";
		"has_ecm" = 1;
		"laser_color" = greenColor;
		"like_ship" = "thargoid_Thargorn_Treat";
		"max_energy" = 2000;
		"max_flight_pitch" = 0.6;
		"max_flight_roll" = 1.8;
		"max_flight_speed" = 450;
		"max_missiles" = 8;
		"missile_launch_position" = "0.0 -46.0 91.0";
		"missile_role" = thargon;
		missiles = 8;
		model = "thargoid_battleship2.dat";
		name = "Thargoid Thargorn Battleship";
		"port_weapon_type" = "WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER";
		roles = "thargoid thargoid-mothership thargoid-thargorn";
		scan_class = "CLASS_THARGOID";
		"scanner_range" = 70000;
		script = "thargorn-warship.js";
		"starboard_weapon_type" = "WEAPON_THARGOID_LASER";
		subentities = (
			"thargoid_turret_150 -67 0 0 1 0.0 1 0.0",
			"thargoid_turret_150 0 0 -67 1 0.0 -1 0.0",
			"thargoid_turret_150 0 0 67 -1 0.0 1 0.0",
			"thargoid_turret_150 67 0 0 - 0.0 -1 0.0",
			"thargoid_turret 0 15 0 1 1 0 0"
		);
		thrust = 45;
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They are very similar!

Eric Walch has confirmed its a GalNavy problem:
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I have looked in the Gal Navy texture folder and there is no texture for a Thargoid Battleship.... This doesn't make sense?
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Fatleaf wrote:
I have looked in the Gal Navy texture folder and there is no texture for a Thargoid Battleship.... This doesn't make sense?
You're right, there isn't. But there is a model .dat and the entries in shipdata.plist.

Maybe there is a "likeship" reference somewhere?
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This is where it gets even stranger. I will continue this in the Gal Navy thread as it is dealing specifically with that oxp.
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